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re: Sticks & Stones Audience- 99% vs Critics- 38%

Posted on 9/6/19 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 9/6/19 at 10:33 pm to
It isn't "this board," buddy, The Pink Mafia twitter mob has been out to get Dave for a while, and they were running it down on Twitter calling it hateful and shite before they had even seen it. And if you actually read the reviews bashing it, a ton are explicitly political. Calling it "stale" is just the mild complaint thrown in with the big gay hissyfit.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 9/7/19 at 12:36 am to
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It isn't "this board," buddy, The Pink Mafia twitter mob has been out to get Dave for a while, and they were running it down on Twitter calling it hateful and shite before they had even seen it. And if you actually read the reviews bashing it, a ton are explicitly political. Calling it "stale" is just the mild complaint thrown in with the big gay hissyfit.


That's not the overall problem though. The problem is bashing anyone criticizing it HERE by claiming it's all part of the SJW agenda. Like a person can simply, you know... not like it.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:27 am to
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The Pink Mafia twitter mob has been out to get Dave for a while, and they were running it down on Twitter calling it hateful and shite before they had even seen it.


You're right. And these aren't critics.

I'll go read the negative reviews.
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while serving up simple, low-bar yucks to anyone yearning for validation of their anti-P.C. stance.


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leaves the audience with the sense that there was more work to be done before the special was filmed.


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Ultimately, though, it feels like stale work from a comedian who was once known for truly boundary-pushing comedy


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Lacking empathy can certainly be amusing, but Sticks & Stones is a tired routine by a man who forgot to layer jokes into his act


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Sticks & Stones" isn't necessarily a failure, it just feels like Chappelle presenting half-formed material with few jokes that truly hit hard and stand out.

The one from the Slate writer fits your narrative if you squint hard enough. 5 of 7 of these negative reviews are just bummed out that a great comedian produced something they found subpar. The other 2 are snarky and condescending toward who they view as an out of touch old man.

By the way, I don't necessarily agree with these reviews, but your liberal critic narrative is absolute BS. Every conservative paper and website reviews media, along with every liberal one and every neutral one. If you want to complain about the Twitter mob, then complain about the Twitter mob. It's your own fault for listening to those idiots and letting them inform, directly or indirectly, any opinion of yours.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/7/19 at 6:44 am to
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leaves the audience with the sense that there was more work to be done before the special was filmed
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Sticks & Stones" isn't necessarily a failure, it just feels like Chappelle presenting half-formed material with few jokes that truly hit hard and stand out.

This is how I felt about the special.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:36 pm to
Just finished watching with my wife. Felt like I was watching the Chappelle Show again. Hilarious.
Posted by vandelay industries
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:53 pm to
I enjoyed the whole thing, but I felt the second half had more laugh-out-loud bits than the first half.

The 20-minute epilogue after the credits is essential viewing, and by looking at the reviews, you can pretty much tell who watched that part and who didn't...
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37526 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:59 pm to
I haven't seen the whole thing so I may modify my opinion somewhat after seeing the other half but...

I think its pretty much Chappelle with a slightly broader range of criticism. He's still funny to some people for being inappropriate but he's probably also deliberately choosing to touch jokes that some people are going to hate him for talking about.

Whatever you think about Jessie Smollet or abortion he made his living talking about things that were inappropriate to talk about in polite company. If people don't like him because they claim they don't think its topical enough I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense to me. If they admit they don't like him for political sensitivity reasons then fine, at least they are being honest about their dislike (and its the kind of political dislike people on the right were guilty of when it came to comedians like Jon Stewart).

I just don't think there's a good reason to dislike DC. He's deliberately offensive to some but the act of being offensive is sometimes important because it means the person might be challenging sacred cows that are important to challenge. When it comes down to it he's only talking. If we can't all at least tolerate opinions we hate then we really ought to grow up a little.
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:06 am to
Subway? Sandwiches!?!?!?
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:24 am to
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its the kind of political dislike people on the right were guilty of when it came to comedians like Jon Stewart


The criticism I've seen of Jon Stewart and other leftist comics (aka: all comics) is that they all say the same things. It's an echo chamber, and echo chambers simply aren't funny or entertaining to anyone outside of the echo chamber.

The criticism of Chappelle seems to be that he isn't in the echo chamber.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37526 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:22 pm to
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The criticism of Chappelle seems to be that he isn't in the echo chamber.



Sort of but not completely. People who are criticizing him now seem to think their criticism is a moral action. They want to restrict some groups from being objects of criticism and especially ridicule.

I can understand the urge. We all feel that way about certain things. And frankly almost all of us mostly live within echo chambers of our own selection. If you seek out and maintain relationships with people who you love, but simultaneously hate their political opinions then you are an exceptionally unusual person.

Very few of us choose for our deepest friendships people who challenge our core beliefs. Most of us seek out information sources that confirm and do not challenge our biases. Following and blocking are social media amplifications of our behaviors that alter our information sources and ability to receive contradictory information - which most of us just don't want to put up with on a regular basis.
Posted by SeeeeK
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Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 3:44 pm to
LOL at the same critics who gave the movie about AOC a 100%

They have 2 more SJW movies to jack off 2, Knives out, rian johnsons SJW crap, and Cuck, another Anti-conservative, push a shite agenda movie.

Knives out, is already getting nods for Academy awards. LOL


Posted by jg8623
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:09 pm to
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and Cuck, another Anti-conservative, push a shite agenda movie.


Did you google “anti conservative movies” or something? Because that’s a movie directed by a guy who’s never made a feature length movie with actors I’ve never heard of and that most people will likely never even know exists
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 6:28 am to
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Like a person can simply, you know... not like it.


Um, the Cult of the Perpetually Offended started this game, you should be talking to them.

In Current Year, EVERY criticism pointed at a protected class is met with howls of some sort of "ism" or "phobia"....

Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
6127 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:47 am to
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People who are criticizing him now seem to think their criticism is a moral action. They want to restrict some groups from being objects of criticism and especially ridicule.


These statements ignore the existence of the actual, published negative reviews on RT, which almost universally express disappointment in a lack of well-crafted jokes, not in any lack of class or morality.

To say the writers of these reviews believe they are pushing a moral action is to twist and add words that aren't there to the reviews you don't agree with.

You don't agree with them, fine. This isn't systemic moralizing. You are talking about a Twitter mob, not critics.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 10:01 am to
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These statements ignore the existence of the actual, published negative reviews on RT, which almost universally express disappointment in a lack of well-crafted jokes, not in any lack of class or morality.

To say the writers of these reviews believe they are pushing a moral action is to twist and add words that aren't there to the reviews you don't agree with.
why did you clip off the fox news part of Ian Thomas Malone's review?
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 10:04 am
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