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re: Stephen Colbert is writing a new LOTR film

Posted on 3/26/26 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 2:53 pm to
Because it’s true & it does matter to Tolkien fans.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 2:58 pm to
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Nobody likes this one bit.

I like it. I hope they keep making more LOTR games, shows, and movies until the day I die. I don't wanna be looking back when I'm 60 thinking the last new lord of the rings I saw is 20+ years old

I wish they'd remake the LOTR MMO because despite the amazing world and lore the graphics and gameplay mechanics make it unappealing compared to modern games.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:10 pm to
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I don't wanna be looking back when I'm 60 thinking the last new lord of the rings I saw is 20+ years old



Why not? The books existed for 45 years before Peter Jackson’s movies came out.



But I credit you for not recognizing RoP & War of the RoHERrim as being Tolkien content.

Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:28 pm to
those would all be 20+ years old before I turn 60.

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Why not? The books existed for 45 years before Peter Jackson’s movies came out.

what does the books have to do with the movies?

they have came out with 3 treasure island movies since the book. I still went back and read the book from 1883. When they come out with a 4th treasure Island movie, it won't have any affect on the other 3 or the books.

making new stuff doesn't replace the older stuff.

Did you bitch in 1990 when they released the Christian Bale version of treasure island about how it wasnt needed and after it came out did it ruin the 1950 version or 1972 version for you? Or do you just refer to them by the year they came out and treat them as different movies like everyone else?
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 3:40 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:37 pm to
Making trash content waters down the IP. That has been true from everything from Star Wars Star Trek to Doctor Who and beyond. Stop making trash content, the books were translated into 37 languages for 50 years before Peter Jackson movies.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:44 pm to
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Making trash content waters down the IP.

Making no content makes the IP irrelevant.

The only way to make a story last is for it to be passed down generation to generation. Each generation needs their own version to get them interested in the IP.

Sure modern kids could just pick up the books, but the movies coming out sold more copies of the books than had sold in the decades before.

The new Harry Potter series coming out has put the Harry Potter books back on top of the audible sales charts as well.

You cant just let a story sit. You have to actively tell it to pass it down to the next generation and carry on its life.

People dont sit around campfires and tell stories anymore, they watch tv and movies. Those are the modern version of passing down a story.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Froman
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:50 pm to
He’s a great writer so that could be really good. He’s also a huge LOTR fan so he will definitely stay true to the source material if there is any. Not sure I’ve ever heard of a story of the hobbits having a post-Frodo adventure unless I’m remembering the appendices wrong.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 4:25 pm to
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Making no content makes the IP irrelevant.


Completely disagree.

See Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Terminator, Alien, etc….

The examples are plentiful.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 4:29 pm to
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See Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Terminator, Alien, etc….

Do you think a significant amount of people under 30 would care about any of these if they quit making them in the 80s?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 4:55 pm to
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if they quit making them in the 80s?



That's not a fair comparison. Wrath of Khan? The biggest Star Trek movie of all time. Aliens was as solid a sequel as there has ever been. And Doctor Who reviving in 2005 after 9 years from the 1 movie and 26 yrs after the original series ended, it only gave the series a massive spike in popularity BECAUSE IT WAS SO GOOD for a full 10 years. But then they forced current day shite into the stories and it's all but died now.

New and different doesn't equate to 'good'. Just look at Starfleet Academy, The Acolyte.

Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 5:12 pm to
Even if a new show/movie isnt good it can still draw in people that never watched the older version or read the books.

See the prequel trilogy, The Predator, Alien: Earth.

There are people that never watched a single star wars movie until The Acolyte. The world is chaotic and people get introduced to stuff in different ways.

Screens dominate the younger generations. New shows/movies are their gateway to the books (and older movies) , not the other way around.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 5:15 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 5:20 pm to
Starfleet Academy was cancelled.

Same with The Acolyte.

Willow was wiped from Disney's platform completely.

And there's a reason why current day Hollywood tells its writers to NOT go back to the source material and try to learn about the characters.

(She-Hulk, Lanterns, Cowboy Bebop, Witcher, etc ... )

Compare that with One Piece which sticks holding true to the source material as close as any live action can for an anime. Massively popular.


They don't make these projects to keep the IP alive, or to draw in new fans, they do it simply to maintain the RIGHTS to the IP. That's all.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:25 pm to
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You said you don't believe he's a fan. You've clearly said that because you don't like him


He's only a fan insofar as he can adapt LOTR to fit his maligned world view. Thats all people like him care about.

Much like Greta Gerwig being "a fan," of the Chronicles of Narnia.

She's isn't.

And he isn't.
Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:56 pm to
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He's only a fan insofar as he can adapt LOTR to fit his maligned world view.


He's been talking about LotR in public for 20 years. His goal in bringing up the Balrog on the Colbert Report in 2007 was just to snag a co-writing job on a movie sequel in 2026?
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:49 am to
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She's isn't.

And he isn't.


You can't/don't know that.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:13 am to
Time will tell. If I were a betting man I would bet that Narnia will be woke trash removing the whole fracking point of the book.

And Colbert is still pissed for being fired. I firmly believe he will make another DEI paint by the numbers pile of garbage.

It polymarket had odds on both being woke trash that will get shite ratings, I think the odds would easily favor trash.

If you like New Trek, Doctor Who, Acolyte, Wheel of Time and Rings of Power your opinion is garbage.

And if you defend the New Xfiles, I also consider your opinion garbage. And most of the people who bend over backwards defending this trash don't even watch it.
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 9:17 am
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:23 am to
“Somehow, Sauron has returned”
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:29 am to
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He's only a fan insofar as he can adapt LOTR to fit his maligned world view. Thats all people like him care about.

Much like Greta Gerwig being "a fan," of the Chronicles of Narnia.

She's isn't.

And he isn't.

who should I trust on this, some internet political hack that hates Colbert or Peter Jackson?

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When Colbert visited the New Zealand set of “The Hobbit,” Jackson arranged a trivia face-off between his guest and the film’s resident Tolkien authority Philippa Boyens, who co-wrote the “Lord of the Rings” trilogy and won an Academy Award for “The Return of the King.” Colbert won.

“I have never met a bigger Tolkien geek in my life. His encyclopedic knowledge of Tolkien is spectacular, and points to a deprived childhood in some respects,” Jackson told Entertainment Weekly in 2012. That “deprived childhood” included, by Colbert’s own account, abandoning schoolwork, quitting sports and spending his teenage years absorbed in not just “The Hobbit” and “Lord of the Rings,” but the full sweep of Tolkien’s writing. Now the man who beat the franchise’s own screenwriter at her own game is writing the next film alongside her.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 12:30 pm to
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I like it. I hope they keep making more LOTR games, shows, and movies until the day I die.




This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 12:30 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 12:31 pm to
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who should I trust on this, some internet political hack that hates Colbert or Peter Jackson?


You probably shouldn't trust anyone in Hollywood to respect the integrity of a piece of work. It's just another cash call for Jackson. You think that PJ is the only non-whore in Hollywood?


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Defrost the original cast and have them come back as older pussified versions of their characters who learn the true meaning of adventure from a younger more diverse more female replacement that doesn't just outshine them in every way possible but make them realize they were never that heroic in the first place.
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 12:33 pm
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