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Star Wars The Force Awakens: New Rumors (Possible Spoilers)
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:55 am
The following items have been floated in the past few days and weeks related to the new Star Wars film, The Force Awakens, aka Episode 7. Nothing can be confirmed but these sources have been proven right about other stuff already so treat this as POSSIBLE SPOILER MATERIAL:
1. Max Von Sydow plays a character that is a former admiral commanding the Super Star Destroyer that you see wrecked on the planet Jakku in the trailer…the back story is that his ship was downed in the battle of Jakku (then an uninhabited planet) and he and his crew were abandoned by the Empire…Max and his crew stayed on the planet and became the first settlers on the planet…none of this will be shown in the movie but upcoming books will tee it up and some of it may be alluded to. Rumors are that he serves as a bit of a watcher and helper for Daisy Ridley's character.
2. Kylo Ren is not just the Sith Baddy in this movie, but he is literally claiming to be Darth Vader in the flesh. The audience and the good guys know he isn't really Darth Vader but many followers in the First Order begin to believe he is Darth Vader. He is extremely violent and brutal, killing his own troops if they dare to question his orders or his identity.
3. The movie begins with John Boyega's stormtrooper character (Finn) being promoted to Kylo Ren's elite trooper unit…he goes on a mission where Ren brutally slaughters a village of unarmed people (where MVS's character lives)…it might be that the bloody handprint we see on Finn's helmet in the teaser is from his stormtrooper buddy who is slaughtered by Ren right in front of him for not carrying out orders..
4. All of the above leads Finn to question his loyalty to the First Order and come up with a plan to desert. he strikes a deal with the captured X Wing Pilot Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) and the two form an uneasy alliance to break out of the star destroyer they are being held on and steal the Tie Fighter (this is the scene where you see the tie fighter hovering inside a hanger firing on other storm troopers.
5. The scene where we see Luke Skywalker's robotic hand reaching out to touch R2D2 int he trailer with some sort of embers floating off screen may be a flashback scene and it may the aftermath of Luke's jedi academy students being slaughtered by Kylo Ren or some other entity many years before…this event may have caused Luke to go into exile.
Everything above happens in the first 1/3 of the movie….Discuss
1. Max Von Sydow plays a character that is a former admiral commanding the Super Star Destroyer that you see wrecked on the planet Jakku in the trailer…the back story is that his ship was downed in the battle of Jakku (then an uninhabited planet) and he and his crew were abandoned by the Empire…Max and his crew stayed on the planet and became the first settlers on the planet…none of this will be shown in the movie but upcoming books will tee it up and some of it may be alluded to. Rumors are that he serves as a bit of a watcher and helper for Daisy Ridley's character.
2. Kylo Ren is not just the Sith Baddy in this movie, but he is literally claiming to be Darth Vader in the flesh. The audience and the good guys know he isn't really Darth Vader but many followers in the First Order begin to believe he is Darth Vader. He is extremely violent and brutal, killing his own troops if they dare to question his orders or his identity.
3. The movie begins with John Boyega's stormtrooper character (Finn) being promoted to Kylo Ren's elite trooper unit…he goes on a mission where Ren brutally slaughters a village of unarmed people (where MVS's character lives)…it might be that the bloody handprint we see on Finn's helmet in the teaser is from his stormtrooper buddy who is slaughtered by Ren right in front of him for not carrying out orders..
4. All of the above leads Finn to question his loyalty to the First Order and come up with a plan to desert. he strikes a deal with the captured X Wing Pilot Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) and the two form an uneasy alliance to break out of the star destroyer they are being held on and steal the Tie Fighter (this is the scene where you see the tie fighter hovering inside a hanger firing on other storm troopers.
5. The scene where we see Luke Skywalker's robotic hand reaching out to touch R2D2 int he trailer with some sort of embers floating off screen may be a flashback scene and it may the aftermath of Luke's jedi academy students being slaughtered by Kylo Ren or some other entity many years before…this event may have caused Luke to go into exile.
Everything above happens in the first 1/3 of the movie….Discuss
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:03 am to Tiger Ryno
Sounds pretty intricate and interesting, way better than trade alliances with pseudo-Japanese frog people.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:35 am to Tiger Ryno
Sounds pretty damn good to me...where do you get your spoiler info from?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:44 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:51 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
The movie begins with John Boyega's stormtrooper character (Finn)
This may be a dumb question, but aren't all stormtroopers clones?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:52 am to Tiger Ryno
Inb4:
This movie does not follow some obscure fan fiction novel that I love so much. Therefore it will be a disaster. I will not watch. (But I will be first in line to see it).
This movie does not follow some obscure fan fiction novel that I love so much. Therefore it will be a disaster. I will not watch. (But I will be first in line to see it).
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:53 am to SetTheMood
quote:
This may be a dumb question, but aren't all stormtroopers clones?
in the begining, yes, according to prequels...which hopefully they are pretending dont exist along with the fan fiction.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:55 am to The Godfather
The fact they've downplayed the episode vii moniker and have emphasized things as an admission of the prequels overall shiftiness makes me think they aren't totally trashing it like the EU but arent being hamstrung by them either
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 9:56 am
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:58 am to The Godfather
quote:
in the begining, yes, according to prequels...
So, the stormtroopers in the original trilogy aren't clones? Doesn't Leia say "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:01 am to SetTheMood
quote:
So, the stormtroopers in the original trilogy aren't clones? Doesn't Leia say "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"
No, they're not clones.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:01 am to SetTheMood
quote:
So, the stormtroopers in the original trilogy aren't clones? Doesn't Leia say "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"
so because they don't have short stormtroopers that means that they are clones?
They have different voices when they talk to each other, if they were clones they would all sound the same wouldn't they?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:02 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Max Von Sydow plays a character that is a former admiral commanding the Super Star Destroyer that you see wrecked on the planet Jakku in the trailer
hold on real quick. Not trying to sound cocky, so please prove me wrong, but I'm pretty sure that ship that is crashed on Jakku in the trailer is NOT a super star destroyer.
If I'm not mistaken, the only true super star destroyers were the three executer class ships. Vader's flagship, Palpatine's flagship, and the Lusankya, which was buried under the surface of Imperial Center (Many consider Palpatine's greatest use of the force was him using it to alter the minds of the billions affected on the planet to forget this ever happened, and forget all the loved ones who were died during the project).
I believe that ship in the trailer to be a normal star destroyer, an interdictor class cruise to be specific because of the remaining dome that I think to be one of the gravity well projectors that made those ships so special. They had the same shape as star destroyers, but were a fair bit smaller, which seems to fit with what we saw in the trailer.
After doing some research, I think that we are both right. Originally Super only refered to those three, but sometime over the last few years it began to be thrown around to include all classes of Star Destroyers.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:03 am to SetTheMood
quote:
So, the stormtroopers in the original trilogy aren't clones? Doesn't Leia say "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"
Yeah. But I would imagine that there is a shortage of clones by the time of this movie since they would have been at war with the rebel (or whatever they are called in this movie). Surely one of the early strikes that the rebels made was against the cloning facility.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:04 am to TigerFanatic99
quote:
If I'm not mistaken, the only true super star destroyers were the three executer class ships. Vader's flagship, Palpatine's flagship, and the Lusankya, which was buried under the surface of Imperial Center (Many consider Palpatine's greatest use of the force was him using it to alter the minds of the billions affected on the planet to forget this ever happened, and forget all the loved ones who were died during the project).
Where did this come from?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:05 am to TigerFanatic99
quote:
If I'm not mistaken, the only true super star destroyers were the three executer class ships. Vader's flagship, Palpatine's flagship, and the Lusankya, which was buried under the surface of Imperial Center (Many consider Palpatine's greatest use of the force was him using it to alter the minds of the billions affected on the planet to forget this ever happened, and forget all the loved ones who were died during the project).
Books don't mean shite in Disney's Star Wars
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:05 am to The Godfather
all I know is that vader's ship was a super star destroyer (from the movies)
and that it was called the executor (from rogue squadron III)
and that it was called the executor (from rogue squadron III)
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:07 am to Tiger Ryno
So that means Rey is descended from Imperials?
Interesting because I don't think they ever showed any female officers in the OT
Interesting because I don't think they ever showed any female officers in the OT
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:08 am to DelU249
Here's some background on the Lusankya. It's story is my favorite piece of the Star War's universe. I could talk about that bitch all day. Yssane Isard is also one of my favorite topics. I fell in love with her character through the X-wing series of books.
LINK
In any case, that ship in the trailer is not a tradition SUPER star destroyer in the likes of the Executer, or the Lusankya for that matter.
LINK
In any case, that ship in the trailer is not a tradition SUPER star destroyer in the likes of the Executer, or the Lusankya for that matter.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:10 am to BloodSweat&Beers
not all of that shite is from the books
vader's super star destroyer ("concentrate firepower on that super star destroyer") was pretty distinct from regular star destroyers as evidenced by most of the empire strikes back
and it was called "the executor"
vader's super star destroyer ("concentrate firepower on that super star destroyer") was pretty distinct from regular star destroyers as evidenced by most of the empire strikes back
and it was called "the executor"
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:12 am to The Godfather
quote:So, they're gonna throw out the prequels? Why call it episode 7 then?
according to prequels...which hopefully they are pretending dont exist
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 10:13 am
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