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Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:49 pm to RLDSC FAN
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My wife had a major problem with Rey getting so strong so fast
It's my primary complaint with the film. I've heard all the rationalizations, but I still find it ridiculous.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:01 pm to Cs
My primary complaint was the scene with the smugglers. Just didn't fit and didn't work.
I had other, smaller things that I noticed that made me question what I was seeing. But that was the only moment that took me out of the movie.
I had other, smaller things that I noticed that made me question what I was seeing. But that was the only moment that took me out of the movie.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:07 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:12 pm to blueboy
Smart. Click Bait keeps them in business.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:13 pm to ell_13
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My primary complaint was the scene with the smugglers. Just didn't fit and didn't work.
I didn't care for that scene either. It's an obvious filler scene to break up moments of exposition.
Han actually takes note of the Rathtars and the Guavian Death Gang when they're standing at a control panel just outside of the Falcon - and yet, instead of turning around and walking back into the Falcon and taking off, they decide to walk down a hallway into the freighter - which leads to a chase scene that ultimately leads to them running back out to the Falcon to take off.
It's completely pointless and has zero narrative significance.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:43 pm to ell_13
quote:A one page article doesn't count as "clickbait." It's not a 40 page slideshow, and it's points are completely valid, for the most part.
Smart. Click Bait keeps them in business.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:48 pm to ell_13
I thought it was well placed. It also cemented Solo's continued reputation. Later when talking with Leia, after its known she's a General for the Resistance, they each acknowledge that they both went back to what they did best in order to deal with losing their son.
Could they have just had Solo just verbally state what he's been up to for 30 years and this scene with Leia later still make sense, maybe. The scene with the smugglers just shows that Solo continues to be the cowboy he's always been.
Could they have just had Solo just verbally state what he's been up to for 30 years and this scene with Leia later still make sense, maybe. The scene with the smugglers just shows that Solo continues to be the cowboy he's always been.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:48 pm to ell_13
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Smart. Click Bait keeps them in business.
aren't they mostly right? ...
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:50 pm to Boss
Just got out of my second time viewing it. Liked it even more the second time. At first I thought it was too close to a new hope, but upon second viewing it wasn't as much as I thought. Can't wait to see where they go from here. Will probably see it again before it leaves theaters
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:03 pm to southernelite
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Saw it this weekend, my main complaint was with Finn picking up the lightsaber and using it. Despite the fact that we know that regulars can wield and use the lightsaber, the lightsaber is one with the force, and it optimized only when someone using the force wields it.
I don't know why this is so hard to get past. He clearly didn't show that he was inspired with the force since Han had to save him against the stormtrooper and a badly injured Kylo disabled him.
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Rey being so adpet with the force was slightly unbelievable too.
I wouldn't say she was "adept." Her mind trick failed until the stormtrooper was in front of her face. She was able to see into Ren's mind as he was trying to see in hers which is when she started to realize what was going on. Further she was able to hold her ground against a badly injured, not fully trained Kylo Ren. It's obvious that she can fight very well with a stick.
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There were points that paralled the old movies that you just couldn't help but rolling your eyes at.
There were plenty of eye rolling dialogue in the OT. Besides this film's job was to "begin to make things right" as referenced from the first spoken line of the film by winning over the fans. It's a perfect film to springboard creativity for the rest of this trilogy.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:10 pm to tiderider
34 makes me think whoever wrote that didn't pay attention very well.
There were some good points made, but some of those are confusing.
Again, number 34, the things got out because Rey accidentally opened the blast doors.
There were some good points made, but some of those are confusing.
Again, number 34, the things got out because Rey accidentally opened the blast doors.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:43 pm to southernelite
Reminds me of the Avatar/Pocahontas comparison.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:55 pm to southernelite
Finally saw it. My thoughts
1. If you can see it at a theater with DBox or 4D seats, spend the money. These are the seats that move and rumble to the movie and it was a nice touch.
2. Do not understand the shock of Rey being able to use the light saber so well. That was pretty much the point of having her staff with her through the movie. She did not know how to use a blaster (Obi would approve), she grew up protecting herself with a staff. Does not take a gigantic leap for a force strong person like her to wield a lightsaber so well. Finn is an example of no clue of how to use a lightsaber. Pay attention to the whole movie please.
3. You need to know the OT, Star Wars Rebels and recent literature (books, comics) to be up to speed and judge this movie. There is key details that fill in some of the gaps. Example - stormtroopers not being clones, where did the First Order come from, etc.
4. Dafuq does Rey belong to. Kylo is a Solo/Skywalker, where did Rey come from? This will be interesting to find out and please do not be Luke's daughter.
5. The realness of the props and action scenes was amazing. The Falcon on Jakku left me stunned, was amazing.
6. Kylo/Ben will be interesting to see where he goes, based on how it was left. Even with training, I do not think he will be as powerful as Rey. Ren has an internal struggle of Daddy issues, Rey has a forgotten child's rage in her.
I am so amazingly happy with this movie and seeing the care and detail on this I cannot wait for Rogue One.
1. If you can see it at a theater with DBox or 4D seats, spend the money. These are the seats that move and rumble to the movie and it was a nice touch.
2. Do not understand the shock of Rey being able to use the light saber so well. That was pretty much the point of having her staff with her through the movie. She did not know how to use a blaster (Obi would approve), she grew up protecting herself with a staff. Does not take a gigantic leap for a force strong person like her to wield a lightsaber so well. Finn is an example of no clue of how to use a lightsaber. Pay attention to the whole movie please.
3. You need to know the OT, Star Wars Rebels and recent literature (books, comics) to be up to speed and judge this movie. There is key details that fill in some of the gaps. Example - stormtroopers not being clones, where did the First Order come from, etc.
4. Dafuq does Rey belong to. Kylo is a Solo/Skywalker, where did Rey come from? This will be interesting to find out and please do not be Luke's daughter.
5. The realness of the props and action scenes was amazing. The Falcon on Jakku left me stunned, was amazing.
6. Kylo/Ben will be interesting to see where he goes, based on how it was left. Even with training, I do not think he will be as powerful as Rey. Ren has an internal struggle of Daddy issues, Rey has a forgotten child's rage in her.
I am so amazingly happy with this movie and seeing the care and detail on this I cannot wait for Rogue One.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:25 pm to blueboy
quote:Some of those were explicitly explained in the film (e.g., it was Finn's first mission), some of those seem to be information that were alluded to and/or will be explained in further detail later (e.g., how Rey became so adept at fighting with a light saber) but weren't actual plot holes, and a good chunk of those were just nit-picky and irrelevant to the actual plot (e.g., how did Han lose his ship).
HuffPo gets it.
In other words, most of those aren't actual "plot holes." If every minor detail was explained, films would be unbearable. Besides when we know it's a series of films, every detail does not be be flushed out immediately. We could do this with the first films in Harry Potter, LOTR, and the original series, but we know many details were added later.
Regardless, denoting plot holes then missing explicitly stated points that explain those "holes" does not reflect well on the professor's listening skills. Maybe that's why he's a writer.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:35 pm to Michael T. Tiger
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How much of a time jump do you expect from Episode VII to Episode VIII?
The official timeline that Disney/Lucasfilms released to help people place where all the new EU canon will be has TFA pegged at 30 years after Endor, Episode 8 a year after that, and Episode 9 a year later. Now, I'm sure that can change and it's possible that those were just placeholder dates.
I'll say this though, they did some pre-production/production work a few weeks back on Skellig Michael (the island that Luke was on at the end of TFA) and they are heading back out there in a few weeks as well (I'd reveal how I know this, but no one would believe me anyways
)Posted on 12/22/15 at 12:13 am to buckeye_vol
quote:Semantics. Those "details" are fair points as to why the movie was sloppy.
In other words, most of those aren't actual "plot holes." If every minor detail was explained, films would be unbearable. Besides when we know it's a series of films, every detail does not be be flushed out immediately. We could do this with the first films in Harry Potter, LOTR, and the original series, but we know many details were added later.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 12:30 am to buckeye_vol
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Regardless, denoting plot holes then missing explicitly stated points that explain those "holes" does not reflect well on the professor's listening skills. Maybe that's why he's a writer.
Most journalists/critics/bloggers are no talent hacks who couldn't latch onto the few good newspapers left or are creative enough to write their own movies/novels that people actually want to watch/read. So they belittle those who actually have skill and talent and are well liked to make themselves feel better about their own lack of talent.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 12:56 am to ReturnoftheMuschamp
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So they belittle those who actually have skill and talent
No danger of that here.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:04 am to ReturnoftheMuschamp
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So they belittle those who actually have skill and talent and are well liked to make themselves feel better about their own lack of talent.
Are you really going to hold up someone who basically cut and pasted A New Hope with a few Pallete and gender swaps as quality writing? Or 90% of the absolute crap Hollywood puts out these days as quality writing?
It's all fricking reboots. Unasked for sequels. Mutilated plots from comics.
They have absolutely shite all over decent writing because drooling simpletons will file into theaters to watch whatever dreck they put lit because a well known name is attached to it.
Just like fricking politics.
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