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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:33 am to
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No, a solar system dies with it, not an entire galaxy. The Milky Way (not a very big galaxy all things considered) is estimated to have 200-400 billion stars. Plenty of sources to suck energy from.

Now, how the thing moves from star to star...
I thought about this a little bit, and the first thing that popped into my mind was how JJ ignores distance in favor of spectacular visual imagery. Remember Star Trek, Old Spock can see Vulcan collapse in the sky like it was the moon from here, and yet he was way too far away to see a planet like that.
Here, the Resistance can see the red streak tracing across the sky, like a vapor trail of an airplane. It takes about 10 seconds to reach the planet and destroy it. It's being seen as it happens, so that implies that the Resistance, the Republic, and the base are all within a few light-seconds of each other; and as a point of reference, remember it takes light about 9 minutes to go from the Sun to the Earth, and the distance from here to, say, Saturn, is a good bit further.
From a realism standpoint, that puts everyone within the same approximate orbit, not just in the same system, and definitely not in different parts of the galaxy.

Short answer: don't try to analyze how Starkiller Base travels, because the film doesn't make scientific sense that way.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:33 am to
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Lor San Tekka, a Jakku village elder

According to the wikipedia article... so nobody significant I guess.


also says that he was a follower of the Church of the Force, an underground faith of loosely affiliated followers of jedi ideals
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:38 am to
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Short answer: don't try to analyze how Starkiller Base travels, because the film doesn't make scientific sense that way.


Oh believe, it didn't ruin my enjoyment of the film. The "geography" of a galaxy doesn't really matter in Star Wars, and never really has.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:54 am to
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Short answer: don't try to analyze how Starkiller Base travels, because the film doesn't make scientific sense that way.


Oh believe, it didn't ruin my enjoyment of the film. The "geography" of a galaxy doesn't really matter in Star Wars, and never really has.
All that being said, here's how I interpreted the scene:

The blast from Starkiller Base took a significant amount of time to reach the Republic's planetary system; we had time to observe their reaction, we could watch the blast crawl across the sky from a 3rd person perspective (the Resistance). The Republic could see it coming before it hit. That, dramatically, seems to imply a great distance; so I actually perceived Starkiller Base as fixed in space, and shooting out Sun-blasts across the galaxy.
It didn't have to come for you, it just had to aim AT you, charge up, and fire... and a star's worth of energy would travel across great distances and destroy the target.

That's bad news for the geeks among us- things will look visually spectacular, but there doesn't seem to be much effort to make it scientifically believable. And we're not talking 'Force', we're talking basic spatial distances here.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:09 pm to
How much of a time jump do you expect from Episode VII to Episode VIII?

All previous films had a definitive ending, I think, the exception being Empire. While that one ended on a cliffhanger, when Jefi started you realized there needed to be some time for a plan to be put together to infiltrate Jabba's palace.

How in the hell do you time jump an appreciable amount of time from Rey holding out Luke's light saber and finding him after he disappeared?

It will just be a bit weird if Luke is suddenly in the middle of things.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:10 pm to
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Short answer: don't try to analyze how Starkiller Base travels, because the film doesn't make scientific sense that way.
I still don't understand how it works. I really need a diagram showing its location in accordance to the sun and such
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:14 pm to
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Lor San Tekka, a Jakku village elder


I believe he will play a major role in Rogue One
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:28 pm to
Was it just me, or did Luke seem like the most power being in the universe. Dude just seemed like his power level is far beyond any user of the force.
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 1:33 pm to
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Was it just me, or did Luke seem like the most power being in the universe. Dude just seemed like his power level is far beyond any user of the force.


Over 9000
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 1:35 pm to
He will kick Goku's arse for sure, even Broly's
Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 1:36 pm to
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Was it just me, or did Luke seem like the most power being in the universe. Dude just seemed like his power level is far beyond any user of the force.
Not most powerful. Perhaps the most knowledgeable and understanding of the force due to his extended isolation (time to learn/think) but certainly not most powerful. Kylo Ren stopped a blaster rifle in mid air and then Rey was able to overpower him in the interrogation chamber. Neither of them are are anywhere near fully trained. I think as it stands Rey and Snoke are probably the most powerful.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 1:37 pm to
Just saw This again and it was even better. The Feels are so strong in this movie and the acting so good. I'll be watching this endlessly when the blue ray comes out.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Not most powerful. Perhaps the most knowledgeable and understanding of the force due to his extended isolation (time to learn/think) but certainly not most powerful. Kylo Ren stopped a blaster rifle in mid air and then Rey was able to overpower him in the interrogation chamber. Neither of them are are anywhere near fully trained. I think as it stands Rey and Snoke are probably the most powerful.

You don't think the aged, more skilled LS could't over power either of them with very little effort? At his current state dude could probably stop a blast from the Starkiller
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 1:53 pm to
Did anyone else think that for a barely space-worthy ship, the Millennium Falcon was able to do some impressive stuff? From the impressive maneuvers on the surface of Jakku, to jumping to light speed inside a freighter, to coming out if lightspeed on the surface of a planet and not exploding into 1 million pieces when it tea bagged the snow.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 1:57 pm to
Well, it's the Millenium Falcon, of course it can do impressive stuff.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 2:07 pm to
Yall saw that Ewan McGregor was in tfa?
Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 2:07 pm to
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You don't think the aged, more skilled LS could't over power either of them with very little effort?
Yeah. But I think the other 2 are more powerful/have a higher potential.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 2:10 pm to
It is not a Sci if movie. You lack understanding. Go watch star trek and read AL gores white papers.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 2:10 pm to
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Did anyone else think that for a barely space-worthy ship, the Millennium Falcon was able to do some impressive stuff? From the impressive maneuvers on the surface of Jakku, to jumping to light speed inside a freighter, to coming out if lightspeed on the surface of a planet and not exploding into 1 million pieces when it tea bagged the snow.
The Millennium Falcon is like an old American built car, it is built to last.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 2:12 pm to
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Yeah. But I think the other 2 are more powerful/have a higher potential.

I don't know if there is a maximum amount of power or infinite power one can obtain through the force, but I do know that by looking at Luke Skywalker he looks to be the most powerful
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