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re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:02 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:02 pm to OMLandshark
Okay but if they jump to light speed they can’t follow them right? I guess that’s my confusion is why let them die when they could outrun big ship and just jump out of there.
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:02 pm to OMLandshark
I could swear they said that the rebel ships were too small and quick for the first order ships to catch up. Hence them following and waiting them out. And most of at least the games I've played would lend to it that just throwing a bunch of tie fighters with minimal shields would be useless
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:05 pm to Josh Fenderman
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And most of at least the games I've played would lend to it that just throwing a bunch of tie fighters with minimal shields would be useless
Not really. The resistance doesn't really have any fighters left. Kylo destroyed them all. The main theme of battles in this movie alone, not to mention TFA and R1 was that a couple small fighters could defeat a larger ship because they were too small for the defense systems. The TIE fighters could have easily destroyed those ships.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Except that from at least back in the day, tie fighters had no shields. Rebel/resistance fighters always had full shields
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:07 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
They had already destroyed the bridge.
Or I guess the main bridge, since Purple Haired Laura Dern was back in some sort of bridge to execute the hyperspace kamikaze run.
Or I guess the main bridge, since Purple Haired Laura Dern was back in some sort of bridge to execute the hyperspace kamikaze run.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:08 pm to Josh Fenderman
They aren't having to defend against rebel fighters though. It is just the big ship with limited defense systems. I mean hell Kylo and two TIE's almost took it down before they got "out of range"
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:10 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I mean considering the Rebel fleet’s fighter capability was basically nothing, I have no clue why the TIE fighters couldn’t have picked off every turret on the ships until some TIE bombers came about and finished them off.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:11 pm to CorporateTiger
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I mean considering the Rebel fleet’s fighter capability was basically nothing, I have no clue why the TIE fighters couldn’t have picked off every turret on the ships until some TIE bombers came about and finished them off.
Yep. You know, like the exact same strategy that the FO watched be successful against them hours before?
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:11 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
With regards to the light speed ramming of Snoke’s ship and that being an ultimate weapon....
Let’s not forget how a single A-wing ramming the bridge of a superstar destroyer just completely destroys its ability to function.
Didn’t the rebellion learn anything from Return of The Jedi?
1. Find the bridge of a massive ship
2. Fly a kamikaze mission with a 30 ft, single pilot, fighter into the bridge.
3. Win battle.
Never forget the real hero of Endor. Some nameless Awing pilot.
Let’s not forget how a single A-wing ramming the bridge of a superstar destroyer just completely destroys its ability to function.
Didn’t the rebellion learn anything from Return of The Jedi?
1. Find the bridge of a massive ship
2. Fly a kamikaze mission with a 30 ft, single pilot, fighter into the bridge.
3. Win battle.
Never forget the real hero of Endor. Some nameless Awing pilot.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:36 pm to TigerinOkieHell
Why didn’t the first order have a ship jump ahead in the flight path and head them off at the pass?
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:44 pm to jackmanusc
This made almost twice on its first weekend than Blade Runner 2049 (an actual fantastic sequel) made total at the Box Office. That is aggravating.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:03 pm to OMLandshark
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:08 pm to OMLandshark
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This made almost twice on its first weekend than Blade Runner 2049 (an actual fantastic sequel) made total at the Box Office. That is aggravating.
Not as aggravating as the fact that it took Justice League a couple weeks to make what Star Wars just did in one weekend, not even a whole week.
That reinforces my point while it's a terrible movie from a Star Wars point of view, in a vacuum, it's still competently made, entertaining and isn't just mindless disaster porn.
Justice League thanks to Zack Snyder's taint of death, can't even get those right.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:16 pm to Sentrius
It's time to use the death star to blow up this PC universe because I don't know what the frick is going on. Start over, new world, characters, maybe the bad guy wins for once.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:16 pm to Sentrius
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That reinforces my point while it's a terrible movie from a Star Wars point of view, in a vacuum, it's still competently made, entertaining and isn't just mindless disaster porn.
It isn't competently made. It makes so much money b/c it's Star Wars. I'm sure the next one will make a butt load too. they are almost invincible in those regards. But you make another shitty movie, you will start seeing those box office numbers drop.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:25 pm to TeddyPadillac
My thoughts can be summarized like this:
Where agenda drives the movie it’s about as bad as it gets, where story drives the movie it’s about as good as it gets. This movie is a very mixed bag for me.
Where agenda drives the movie it’s about as bad as it gets, where story drives the movie it’s about as good as it gets. This movie is a very mixed bag for me.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:26 pm to TeddyPadillac
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It isn't competently made.
Compared to Justice League and BvS, frick yeah it is.
Snyder's problem in those movies is that it just jumps from scene to scene like its going through the motions and doesn't do much if anything at all to explain how or why it happens, he just expects us to understand it. It's like Snyder hates storytelling and just wants to make more disaster porn.
In TLJ, that problem doesn't exist because each scene does mesh well together and explains to us what is happening and why and how it's happening. It's there but we fricking disagree like hell with that explanation as its bullshite and completely cheapens the very character and essence of Star Wars.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:27 pm to Sentrius
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Compared to Justice League and BvS, frick yeah it is.
Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water. I hate the Last Jedi more than BvS, but it's by no means a more competently made film.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:28 pm to OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:37 pm to OMLandshark
Also, does anyone ever tell rey Kylo is Han solo’s son. I just assumed in the last movie she didn’t know, she calls him Kylo Ren when she first meets Luke and then at some point she’s calling him “ben”
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