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re: St. Elmo's Fire - what the hell was going on with Emilio Estevez' character?

Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:28 pm to
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The most realistic "coming if age" movie dialogue is still Dazed and Confused



Let it out, Jack






Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:31 pm to
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but I'm too busy with Jessica Alba.

Have you seen her in Stretch? We'd never heard of it, just watched it. She plays the cute sidekick instead of the sex girl.



Well if anyone can make Jessica Alba into a sidekick (no one can), it would be Brooklyn Decker


Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:21 pm to
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It's a midlife crises movie about twenty-somethings.


Best description I’ve ever read of the movie.

I don’t think any of those “Classic” 80’s movies even remotely resembled my experiences from high through my 20’s.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:23 pm to
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I don’t think any of those “Classic” 80’s movies even remotely resembled my experiences from high through my 20’s.

Rob Lowe wanting to move back into the fraternity house after graduating rang true. We had a couple of guys like that.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:49 am to
Not sure about St. Elmo’s Fire but just started watching St. Elsewhere, and it’s a great show.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31120 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:45 am to
Demi's coke habit, neon Billy Idol mural, and Fashionista lifestyle, was soon to have her on the DC Madam's rolodex.

Schumacher fumbled a picture that though vapid and badly panned, had plenty of potential, if in the right hands.

David Foster's 'Love Theme St Elmo's Instrumental' and 'Georgetown' tracks were stellar, as was his 'Water Fountain' from The Secret of My Success. Plus, the decent Parr and Elefante tunes.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 11:14 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:56 am to
Foster's music added a very good vibe and feel to the film. I had heard the tune so much, I didn't realize it cane from St. Elmo's Fire until seeing it.

It's probably the best part of the movie.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19485 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 8:13 am to
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When Andrew McCarthy hooks up with Alley Sheedy and Alec comes over and McCarthy says he has a girl over, Alec says...is it the fat chick?

That's how they refer to her?

I thought they were all supposed to be best friends?


I didn't take it that they were talking about Mare Winningham's character, I thought Alec was just talking about a random fat chick
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 8:42 am to
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I don’t think any of those “Classic” 80’s movies even remotely resembled my experiences from high through my 20’s.


Mine either. Not even really close.

Dazed & Confused is the closest movie to my high school and early college experience. I graduated high school in 1990.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:57 am to
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I don’t think any of those “Classic” 80’s movies even remotely resembled my experiences from high through my 20’s.


Mine either. Not even really close.

Dazed & Confused is the closest movie to my high school and early college experience. I graduated high school in 1990.



I keep seeing y'all say this and y'all are wrong about the 80's. I graduated from college in 1982 and the economy was not good. There was a huge recession and the country was just beginning to come out of it by the mid 80's. By the late 80's, things were booming. The feeling of the 80's was definitely, "I want to conquer the world!" I want the big job and I'm going to make a ton of money. I'm living for my job and the weekend party. I can only imagine that Georgetown was even more so about upward mobility and what job you have. I found the movie to be true in principle, but very exaggerated.
Posted by jlovel7
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:13 am to
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All of that encapsulates what is wrong with 80's movies, that have that 80's feel to them. They're about mostly rich kids, who have easy lives, and yet they are miserable. Was Schumacher hanging out with John Hughes when he wrote this one?


Money and an easy life isn’t necessarily equatable to happiness. It comes in many forms. I think the strength of those movies is showing how even successful people can deal with misery.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38433 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:17 am to
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I keep seeing y'all say this and y'all are wrong about the 80's. I graduated from college in 1982 and the economy was not good. There was a huge recession and the country was just beginning to come out of it by the mid 80's. By the late 80's, things were booming.

The U.S. economy was on the rebound, but not Louisiana's. Hence the mass exodus of graduates to Atlanta and Dallas and elsewhere.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38433 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:21 am to
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They're about mostly rich kids, who have easy lives, and yet they are miserable. Was Schumacher hanging out with John Hughes when he wrote this one?

John Hughes and, more importantly, Lawrence Kasdan. St. Elmo's Fire has more in common with The Big Chill than with The Breakfast Club.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:26 am to
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I keep seeing y'all say this and y'all are wrong about the 80's. I graduated from college in 1982 and the economy was not good. There was a huge recession and the country was just beginning to come out of it by the mid 80's. By the late 80's, things were booming. The feeling of the 80's was definitely, "I want to conquer the world!" I want the big job and I'm going to make a ton of money. I'm living for my job and the weekend party. I can only imagine that Georgetown was even more so about upward mobility and what job you have. I found the movie to be true in principle, but very exaggerated.



I was talking more about the social scene when I was in high school than anything economic. I know what you described was portrayed in a lot of movies, but it was foreign to me being just a middle and high school kid through the 80's. All we cared about was getting drunk, smoking pot, and trying to have sex every weekend, which is closer to Dazed & Confused than any 80's movie I can think of. We certainly didn't have any Jake Ryan type parties in a huge house. We did have big parties in a field out in the country.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65378 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:55 am to
I can see how people would hate it as a stand alone movie, but in the greater context of 80's Brat Pack movies in general, it's a fun component.

As far as lesser Brat Pack movies go, though, I prefer Oxford Blues.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33818 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:22 am to
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St. Elmo's Fire has more in common with The Big Chill than with The Breakfast Club.


I was just going by what mizzoubuckeyeiowa said about it, in this thread.

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I mean all these people just graduated from a prestigious University and nobody can get their shite together. It's a midlife crises movie about twenty-somethings.


I don't remember much about it, but what he said made me think about the John Hughes movies. Sounds like what the Breakfast Club bunch would be going through as college grads. Another boring 80's movie, Less Than Zero, is probably another version of them too.

I was in my 20's then, and working hard for the money I blew on coke. My dealer kept a room at the Fairmont hotel, drove nice vehicles, and had every new electronic device that came out, but his regular job didn't show him having enough income to buy a house.







Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1855 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:25 am to
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God bless Joel Schumacher


Batman nipples? Nah, he's going straight down.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38433 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:29 am to
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Batman nipples? Nah, he's going straight down.

That's like damning Scorsese's life's work because of the old man Irishman De Niro feebly kicking that guy.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116167 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:31 am to
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That's like damning Scorsese's life's work because of the old man Irishman De Niro feebly kicking that guy.


Im pretty close to falling in this zone
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:37 am to
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That's like damning Scorsese's life's work because of the old man Irishman De Niro feebly kicking that guy.


I'd say that the decisions made for that film should cause any fan of Scorsese to review his films with a more skeptical eye.

Then, you can cast him down to the pits after realizing that even Good Fellas has a better 1st half than 2nd half.
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