re: Spielberg: "There Will be a time when Superhero movie go the way of the Western"

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Just an honest question, what movies are you personally missing out on because Superhero films are currently the "IT" genre? I mean, with 3 Superhero films this year and 4 next, it's not like they are dominating the box office, or taking funds away from anything else.

What exactly are the taking the place of?

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Uh yes they are.

Why do you guys continue to bitch about Hollywood making movies that people want to see? You want them to stop making superhero movies that make them billions and make shite that less people want to see. Why? How could you possibly expect them to do that? Why would you want to say "frick everyone else, I want what I want".

What kinds of movies are you guys missing out on anyway? They made some new Star Wars movies, that didn't go so well. They're making newer ones. They tried to make some new LOTR movies. They sucked, but they made a shite load of money. They're making new Jurassic Park movies. They tried to make new Indiana Jones movies. They've tried to make new Sci Fi movies, IE Jupiter Ascending that failed. Guardians of the Galaxy was not a superhero movie. It was just a fun sci fi movie that happened to have the Marvel name on it. They've made massive sci fi movies like Avatar, that by the way was a massive hit. They're making old style action movies like The Expendables, Mission Impossible, and Fast and Furious. The Rock is the biggest action star and has yet to be in a comic movie. You get interesting mysteries like Gone Girl that are doing great at the box office. American Sniper was the highest grossing domestic movie from 2014 for crying out loud. Animated movies like The Lego Movie, Inside Out. Movies like Gravity made a killing. I mean, WTF do some of you want? Honestly?

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original characters and stories.

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No they aren't.

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I just want them to make good movies, this is happening less and less frequently in the superhero genre.

I also want them to stop spending large chunks to time "setting up" things for other movies. particularly in the big tentpole releases like Avengers 2 or Civil War next year. I'm not going to see Thor 3, spend that time actually developing your villain. I realize the shared universe concept requires some of this and that's fine, but when it starts detracting from the movie you're in it's a problem.

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So you have a problem with what you perceive to be bad or mediocre superhero movies not necessarily superhero movies?

Fair point, but not Spielberg's point's or the question.

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You want them to blow their wad on a few movies instead of expanding the universe to tell one big story that's cohesive from movie to movie?

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I didn't say that. But if you can't fully develop the movie that I'm there to see because you're going to take x amount of screen time to devote to expanded universe stuff, that's a major issue for me. Either make the movie longer so you can do both at the same time or cut down on the extra-curriculars so you can give me the best experience that you can given that I paid to see that movie not a preview of what's to come in some other movie.

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original characters and stories.

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Superhero stories are as original as any based on books.

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it's not like they are dominating the box office, or taking funds away from anything else.

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I lump superhero movies into the pile of exhausting prequels/sequels/reboots that seem to be 50% of all movies made. 11 of the top 15 movies at the box office last year were prequels/sequels/reboots.

And there are more than 4 superhero movies coming out next year.

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Why do you guys continue to bitch about Hollywood making movies that people want to see? You want them to stop making superhero movies that make them billions and make shite that less people want to see.

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If people want to see superhero movies and prequels/sequels/reboots/spinoffs (and they evidently do), then yes, I want them to stop making movies that people want to see.

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How could you possibly expect them to do that?

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I don't expect them to. Want =/= expect. I don't blame directors. I blame the easily-amused hordes.

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The most profitable movies of the twenty-first century are animated features, sci-fi action extravaganzas, and spectacular comic-book adaptations, and there's no point in stars (and their egos and paychecks) when virtual unknowns can hold their own opposite robots and aliens.

But that's just one side of the equation. Let's say that a CGI-heavy superhero movie starring a virtual unknown is a hit: The studio gets to keep all its back-end profits, and the lucky now-somewhat-known actor can take his new career out for a spin in the kind of actorly movie that made him want to be an actor in the first place. The trouble is that few people outside of Sundance make those movies anymore. The past decade has seen a steady decline in the sort of small, offbeat studio films that, in many cases, allowed the previous generation of male stars to build a following movie by movie, character by character. Hanks first hit it big by playing oversized kids in Bachelor Party (1984) and Big (1988). Depp developed his distinctive outsider persona in Edward Scissorhands (1990) and What's Eating Gilbert Grape (1993). Pitt clicked as a supporting player in Thelma & Louise (1991) but didn't break wide until his weird-out trifecta of Seven (1995), 12 Monkeys (1995), and Fight Club (1999). And it wasn't Batman & Robin (1997) but Out of Sight (1998) that secured George Clooney's future as a romantic idol.

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