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So the SJW excuses are in full effect over Oceans 8?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:47 pm
A few observations:
1) Oceans 8 really? Did they just presume that these chicks would be so damn awesome that the eventual Oceans 9, and Oceans 10 would just lead us right into Oceans 11?
2) You stole an idea of an all male cast and flipped it, but now think that males created a negative buzz about your SJW project? The female penned NYT review said to not expect us to compare this to its male predecessor is laughable, especially since you stole from that film . . . . including its name, Most people waited the entire film for Clooney to show up
3) There wasn't even really a backlash against 8 like the Ghostbusters remake. Even though Bullock and friends tried to assert there was one
4) And despite Kaling and Blanchett blaming white male reviewers for the mediocre reviews, this is Fannings highest grossing film in 6 years; Bullocks in 5 years; Hathaway or Bonham in the past 3 years; Rihannas highest ever. But yet when these same SJW reviewers were telling us what a great film TLJ was, it was the alt-right audience that was at fault for diminished ticket sales back then
5) Its kinda, sorta hypocritical to make a gender swapped movie only to assert that there are differences between men and women, and the reviews should reflect that -- in regards to a movie that is trying to show that women can do the same things men can do
1) Oceans 8 really? Did they just presume that these chicks would be so damn awesome that the eventual Oceans 9, and Oceans 10 would just lead us right into Oceans 11?
2) You stole an idea of an all male cast and flipped it, but now think that males created a negative buzz about your SJW project? The female penned NYT review said to not expect us to compare this to its male predecessor is laughable, especially since you stole from that film . . . . including its name, Most people waited the entire film for Clooney to show up
3) There wasn't even really a backlash against 8 like the Ghostbusters remake. Even though Bullock and friends tried to assert there was one
4) And despite Kaling and Blanchett blaming white male reviewers for the mediocre reviews, this is Fannings highest grossing film in 6 years; Bullocks in 5 years; Hathaway or Bonham in the past 3 years; Rihannas highest ever. But yet when these same SJW reviewers were telling us what a great film TLJ was, it was the alt-right audience that was at fault for diminished ticket sales back then
5) Its kinda, sorta hypocritical to make a gender swapped movie only to assert that there are differences between men and women, and the reviews should reflect that -- in regards to a movie that is trying to show that women can do the same things men can do
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:50 pm to RobbBobb
Should we make an original movie with an all woman cast?
No. It might not do well. Let's just gender swap another movie people liked so we have easy marketing and a built in excuse both to be lazy as shite with the writing and so we have something to cry about when people don't see our lazily reheated diarrhea movie.
No. It might not do well. Let's just gender swap another movie people liked so we have easy marketing and a built in excuse both to be lazy as shite with the writing and so we have something to cry about when people don't see our lazily reheated diarrhea movie.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:51 pm to RobbBobb
I was Oceans 8, I thought it was decent
Biggest issue was a lack of consequence or any real concern that they would get caught. But it essentially felt like the other Oceans remakes
Biggest issue was a lack of consequence or any real concern that they would get caught. But it essentially felt like the other Oceans remakes
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:52 pm to RobbBobb
What excuses? You want to tell us what you’re bitching about?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:57 pm to RobbBobb
People are making excuses for this movie?
I completely forget it was even released.
Are people really surprised that guys didn’t rush out to go see an all female cast movie?
Also, what do white males have to do with anything?
Can Scruffy get a link to what you are talking about?
Also, I bet that white males were the vast majority of the males who went to see the movie.
I completely forget it was even released.
Are people really surprised that guys didn’t rush out to go see an all female cast movie?
Also, what do white males have to do with anything?
Can Scruffy get a link to what you are talking about?
Also, I bet that white males were the vast majority of the males who went to see the movie.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:57 pm to RobbBobb
I didn't seek out a pile of reviews but the few I read / watched stated it was decent but nothing great. Just middle of the road and the heist was too simplistic / easy. Also lacking a decent bad guy. None of the reviews trashed the cast.
Think this is a decent enough film but I'm not interested. Nor would I be interested in another Clooney movie.
Folks need to get back to the root cause of shitty reviews which is shitty movies.
If Ghostbusters had been funny with exceptional reviews, more people would have seen it. It was terrible. They had to make every male character borderline retarded.
How about writing good female roles into normal movies instead of trying to shoehorn feminism into movies without men. Don't scream about equality while constantly separating the sexes.
Think this is a decent enough film but I'm not interested. Nor would I be interested in another Clooney movie.
Folks need to get back to the root cause of shitty reviews which is shitty movies.
If Ghostbusters had been funny with exceptional reviews, more people would have seen it. It was terrible. They had to make every male character borderline retarded.
How about writing good female roles into normal movies instead of trying to shoehorn feminism into movies without men. Don't scream about equality while constantly separating the sexes.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:58 pm to Tiger1242
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I was Oceans 8
You were? Why aren't you anymore? Are you Oceans 9 now?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:01 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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What excuses? You want to tell us what you’re bitching about?
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Cate Blanchett Seconds Brie Larson in Championing More Diversity Among Film Critics
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Ocean's 8 star Kaling blames dominance of male critics for film's mixed reviews
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Sandra Bullock fumes about haters of all-femme Ghostbusters remake at premiere of her Ocean's 8
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Female leads of Ocean's 8 argue lukewarm reviews to women-focused films are 'unfair' thanks to mostly white male critics
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:05 pm to TigerMyth36
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How about writing good female roles into normal movies
Remember when these women were awesome and no one bitched about diversity. This current horseshite narrative that women were never represented in action and hero movies is infuriating and insulting to these people to name a few:
Princess Leia
Sarah Connor
Ellen Ripley
Dana Barrett
Leeloo
Trinity
Eveyone in Kill Bill
Buffy
Mrs. Kensington
Selene
Most Disney Movies
Xena
Dana Scully
Agent 99
The cast of Charmed
Tomb Raider
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:06 pm to RobbBobb
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3) There wasn't even really a backlash against 8 like the Ghostbusters remake. Even though Bullock and friends tried to assert there was one
I hadn't really observed much backlash against it. More of a collective eyeroll at another ocean's remake.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:08 pm to Scruffy
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Also, I bet that white males were the vast majority of the males who went to see the movie.
No, that's what theyre mad about. They think white males tanked their box office, because 69% of opening weekend attendees were women
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:09 pm to RobbBobb
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Cate Blanchett Seconds Brie Larson in Championing More Diversity Among Film Critics
First there are tons of female and minority critics. Just go to RT...
Second...
Anybody can be a film critic. This isn't the NBA draft.
RT is a cesspool of bloggers and independant websites.
All you need is a desire and talk to some IT guy and write well and get a following.
Being a film critic is probably the most democratic job in America...anybody can do it...anybody can post their views and get a following if they put in the effort and are worth reading.
Today is the easiest access anyone has ever had to being a film critic.
In the old days an entire major city like Chicago had two:
Siskel and Ebert.
L.A. had one.
New York had two.
There's nothing stopping anybody from being a film critic nowadays. A 5 year old can start a blog and be a film critic.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:12 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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There's nothing stopping anybody from being a film critic nowadays.
But someone must be held to account, since their film is about to disappear behind The Incredibles and Jurassic (whatever number it is)
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:13 pm to RobbBobb
It was actually a pretty good movie.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:15 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I hadn't really observed much backlash against it.
Oceans isn't loved as much as Ghostbusters.
A big chuck of the backlash was misplaced anger that we never got another original cast Ghostbusters.
Then, instead of the original cast, we get a gimmick cast.
Since folks aren't gaga about Oceans to the same level, there really wasn't 10% of the backlash for the all chick cast. Just a little, here we go again bullshite.
Who are these "mainly male reviewers"?
With youtube and the internet, there are 1000s of female reviewers. I watch 3 youtube reviewers and one is a chick. She rolls her eyes at all female casts and her main beef is the same as mine. If you want equality, then write strong leads in movies with strong male leads. None of this segregating bullshite.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:16 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
What cracks me up is the confirmation bias.
Where were all of these hidebound white old men that held back Black Panther’s ratings?
This shite of shoving uninspired films down our throats—-but with women!—and if it falters it is because of the white patriarchy is getting past old.
Where were all of these hidebound white old men that held back Black Panther’s ratings?
This shite of shoving uninspired films down our throats—-but with women!—and if it falters it is because of the white patriarchy is getting past old.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:17 pm to Parmen
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It was actually a pretty good movie
That's what most of the reviews say.
It was an OK movie. But it wasn't as great as the Oceans movies.
They brought that comparison and all of its consequences on themselves.
They should've just called this movie Heist: An Ovary Overload production.
They made a solid heist movie. They had a great ensemble cast. They shot themselves in the foot and hamstringed the movie by forcing the Oceans in the title.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:21 pm to Breesus
Dr. RC is literally shaking right now
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:23 pm to RobbBobb
It’s the fact you are not allowed to dislike /hate anything the media and culture says you’re supposed to love anymore or else you’re labeled a bigot or racist.
See Oceans 8/ black panther as two very recent examples .
See Oceans 8/ black panther as two very recent examples .
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