re: So. I'll just leave this here RE: Captain America:Civil War

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I don't really understand Stark's position whatsoever in this argument between him and Cap. Y

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Well Stark's reasoning is not that much different than the reasoning people use to justify government intrusion and oversight in reality. It switches responsibility/accountability to some other entity.

Rather than Tony looking within to see that he caused the problem, and he needs to change his own ways, he would rather give the responsibility to the nanny state.

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The biggest problem with these movies is that there are no stakes whatsoever.

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Well the whole point of CW was not to put their lives at stake. It was meant to put their ideals, beliefs, and group cohesion at stake.

I think that in the upcoming Avengers films with Thanos as villain, there will be much more at stake, and the decisions made in this film will have direct consequences related to that.

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I will end on this note: I like BvS

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Thank God I didn't waste my time reading that post. This is all I needed to know.

Let me help you out……

1) The events of this film take place 1 year after AoU. How is it that Zemo, a regular family man, is able to find out not only who Winter Soldier is, but who and where the secret book of trigger words is located? Ah yes, he said that Black Widow released the Hydra files to the entire world and all he had to do was decode a few things. Really???? Which leads to..

2) A) Was Black Widow releasing all Hydra files for the world to see the most irresponsible thing every done by any character in the MCU? Now even average Zemo Joe can access them?
B) And if the entire world has access to the Hydra files and an average person can access them, neither Stark nor any one associated with him would have found the video of his parent’s assassination? Or at least known about the assassination?

3) Captain America meets the last of his recruits at the airport, just moments before the fight scene. At this point in the movie, it was clear that Cap and Bucky were going to fight in order to get past Team Tony and to Zemo. These two were not fighting because Cap did not believe in the Accords. So what was the rest of Team Cap fighting for? The Sokovia Accords? Did Caps recruits even know what they were fighting about? Did Cap tell them, “oh well you know this brainwashed assassin that’s killed God knows how many people, which happens to be my bestest friend ever, we are going after the guy that set him up.” Or did Cap tell them they were fighting for their rights not to be regulated by the government (Sokovia Accords)? So did Cap lie to them?

4) What happened to Wanda’s thick eastern European accent? She completely lost it in a year?

5) If Peter Parker needed special goggles because his heightened senses causes focusing problems (which explains the eyes on his costume zooming in and out), then why didn’t he need glasses or goggles while he’s out of costume? Wouldn’t he be stumbling around, unable to focus or concentrate when out of costume?

6) Captain America’s Shield – Does it absorb all vibrations or no. Seems like sometimes yes, sometimes no.

7) How does Zemo, who spent a year setting up this elaborate plan, know that Cap, Bucky and Ironman will all be at the Siberian Bunker at the same time? His entire plan hinged on all three showing up at the bunker. That’s a little far-fetched to assume this person with no super powers, can create a plan in which he knows all three will show up at the bunker considering all the angles in his plan.

8) What’s with Aunt May being so young and hot? Did she give Stark the picture of Vinnie taking a shower? Maybe he can use it in Infinity Wars??

9) So Zemo’s plan depended on the Accords being signed. But the Accords didn’t come about until AFTER he started his plans? So how exactly does he know about the Accords, when it didn’t even exist? Perhaps since he predicted the signing of the Accords (and the location of where it would be signed) and (as mentioned above) he predicted Cap, Bucky and Ironman would all show up at the bunker, perhaps Zemo does have the power to see into the future?

10) That damned camera on the country back road.

11) In AoU, Wanda’s power of mind manipulation was focused on heavily and was depicted as being very powerful. So, why did she barely, if at all, use them in Civil War? Didn’t they just pretty much make her a Jean Grey wanna be?

It’s all in fun. Enjoy it for what it is, an awesome superhero movie. Try not to get hung up on the details.

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Why does everything have to resort to DC?

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The honest answer is that the only posters here that seem to have had any real issues at all with Civil War were those that defended BvS for weeks on end. I mean, someone can feel free to go back and Venn Diagram that accusation if they want, but I'd be comfortable taking the bet that the VAST majority of all those with issues after watching CW are firmly in the BvS was really good camp.

That aside, these movies bookend each other both in terms of genre, topic and timing. It would be almost disingenuous discussing one without comparing it to the other. That doesn't bode well for BvS obviously, but to suggest a comparison isn't warranted or expected is kind of silly. You can be damned sure that if BvS had been well received and CW had not been there would be none of this talk of not wanting to compare the two...

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nitpicky

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Yup and that's the point of my post. Some folks get way too nitpicky with the SH movies.

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What’s with Aunt May being so young and hot?

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Marisa Tomei is someone I'd definitely frick.

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He shouldn't be able to just roam freely until the brainwashing is completely out of him.

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Good thing he asked to be put under in Wakanda then in the post credits scene, huh?

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Should have been done in the beginning is the point

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When exactly? He was running for his life from before the movie even started. He then got framed for the bombing he didn't commit and Steve had to swoop in and essentially go rouge and against half the Avengers to save him from being shot on sight. The rest of the movie was them running.

Literally the first chance they had to put him on ice once he was safe they did, at his request.

You could make the argument that regardless of whether or not he was in control he needed to be put down, but that was never on the table in this movie. The assumption from the get go was that Bucky was in the driver's seat and was responsible for his actions. Only once Tony understood that Bucky was being controlled did he pull back...only to then go ape shite and no longer care when the deaths he was responsible for were his parents and not someone elses.

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I love when superheroes go rouge.

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Letter placement can be a bitch sometimes...