re: So Ellen Page is really Achilles in The Odyssey? (Possible Spoilers)

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Sinon is a character from classical mythology—specifically Virgil's The Aeneid—who famously allowed himself to be captured by the Trojans and spun a false tale to convince them to bring the giant wooden horse inside their city gates

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Which is essentially what happens in the film. Though this version of Sinon isn't aware of the Trojan horse's true purpose. He legitimately believes that the horse is a gift and a peace offering to the Trojans and doesn't know there are people inside of it.

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Sion was a proper Greek warrior, who used cunning and deception to convince the Trojans to accept the horse, not even knowing there were soldiers inside, not some underage kid who got tricked into the draft . What you don’t understand is that this backstory was intentionally baked into his character so that people would more readily buy a 5’2” 95lb weakling, running around on screen in soldier’s gear. You are being played.

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There is nothing in Greek mythology telling us this.

All we know about Sinon from Greek mythology is that he is a veteran of the Trojan War who tricks the Trojans into bringing the horse into the city. There are no descriptions of his physical appearance, no tales of his prowess on the battlefield, In fact, the only descriptions we have of him are as a submissive captive who is seen weeping and groveling at the feet of King Priam.

I personally wouldn't have cast Elliot Page in the role of Sinon, given that she is not a man, but her presence in the film doesn't hurt it as far as I'm concerned. She's barely in it.

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The “she’s barely in it” excuse has also been used about Helen. But that doesn’t fly at all either. The fact that she’s actually there at all IS the problem. For Helen, she was a face and launched 1000 ships and has a significant role in the entire war happening in the first place.

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See...this is why you actually need to watch the movie. It's quite subversive. When we are introduced to Helen of Troy by Menelaus in the film, he sneeringly introduces her as, "The face that launched a thousand ships." He then grabs her head, shows off the disfigured left side of it and says, "Now, it probably couldn't launch five hundred."

It's insinuating that Helen's beauty was overrated to begin with.

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Yes, that’s called subverted expectations.

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That's what I said.

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Modern Hollywood thinks it’s smarter than you and you need to just sit down shut up and buy their slop.

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Yes, that’s called subverted expectations. This is Nolan thinking he’s smarter than pretty much everyone else by rewriting history or at least the history that is perceived from the Greek story.

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Its a story, it isnt history. He changed up a story. He didn't rewrite history.

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Its a story, it isnt history. He changed up a story. He didn't rewrite history.

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You're talking to people who think a reboot deletes the original.

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can't imagine having the skill, want, and budget to create something, and having to endure sniveling consumers who tell me to create "better" or "different" rather than move on to a different product.

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oh the irony

Now do our president

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endure sniveling consumers

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That’s the problem, that’s literally how they see paying customers. By insulting and mocking them, telling us what we think we deserve is wrong and how we should just sit down and listen to them. That’s not how this works.