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Seduced: Inside the NXIVM Cult | Starz

Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:06 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:06 am
This is India Oxenberg's (Daughter of Catherine Oxenberg) doc series on her participation in the NXIVM cult and the DOS sex ring that was a secret division of the main cult.

We watched The Vow on HBO Max (which dragged on way too long). Oxenberg's series is getting to the dark stuff way quicker and deeper. The Vow seemed to gloss over the pedophilia teachings and the wife swapping, probably so that the people interviewed looked less guilty for staying with the cult as long as they did.

Hoping that Oxenberg's series will include the trial. The Vow saved the entire trial process for a future second season.

And yes, Allison Mack is insane.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:08 am to
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And yes, Allison Mack is insane.

fun fact i learned during Laura evac

she's married to this Battlestar Galactica actress

Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:30 am to
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Allison Mack
wouldnt be able to fall asleep with her in bed. Wouldnt be comfortable enough.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 11:31 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:32 am to
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Allison Mack
quote:

wouldnt be able to fall asleep with her in bed. Wouldnt be comfortable enough.

Well she was branding her victims with a cauterizing pen, so the pain alone would keep you awake.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:33 am to
Interesting .
May watch this now

Watched the vow and they kept it pretty vanilla as to How bad the organization. Was
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:41 am to
Its kibda scary that she's irl more bat-shite and annoying than her character on smallville was.

Watched some of her old YouTube videos, q&a with fans etc. She was really delusional.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:55 pm to
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fun fact i learned during Laura evac

she's married to this Battlestar Galactica actress


I went down that rabbit hole a bit after binging "Battlestar" during the early days of lockdown.

Interesting the way that cults work.

People have a desire to believe...can be used against them to their detriment. shite like this sounds like what would happen if Scientology took that "next step."
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:03 pm to
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hit like this sounds like what would happen if Scientology took that "next step."


you say that like you are for certain that has not already been going on in Scientology
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:06 pm to
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People have a desire to believe...can be used against them to their detriment.

-believe
+belong
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:07 pm to
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you say that like you are for certain that has not already been going on in Scientology


Ha. Good point. Scientology does have it's slavery side of things...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:14 pm to
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shite like this sounds like what would happen if Scientology took that "next step."

the only reason Scientology didn't devolve into your typical sex cult is because LRH was basically asexual by that point

he would have girls serve him, but i don't think anything sexual would go on

cults go as their leaders go
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:15 am to
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And yes, Allison Mack is insane.

holy shite yes, I had no idea.
watched the first three eps last night, that gal is fricking warped.

cult leader is supposed to be sentenced today I think
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 4:31 pm to
120 years
Damn
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 4:36 pm to
Without Catherine, Keith is still walking around free man
Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:04 pm to
How the hell did he convince all these women to do this??
Posted by Twenty 49
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:18 pm to
I watched The Vow and wish I had not. Needed editing to about 3 or 4 hours, tops. And then they say look forward to season 2. Screw that.

I hear this Starz show is much better, but it’s gonna take time before the stink of The Vow wears off and lets me get into it.

None of that program would have worked on me. Those workshops the people paid to attend are the kind of psycho-babble shite I absolutely despise. They would have had to pay me, a lot, to attend.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 2:17 pm to
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120 years
Damn


Dats a lot of time for someone that didn't kill and eat people on the reg.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 2:29 pm to
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We watched The Vow on HBO Max (which dragged on way too long). Oxenberg's series is getting to the dark stuff way quicker and deeper. The Vow seemed to gloss over the pedophilia teachings and the wife swapping, probably so that the people interviewed looked less guilty for staying with the cult as long as they did.



I liked the Vow, but yeah it was a 3 episode series that was stretched way too far. Also, I get that the head guy isn't a great person and should be in jail; however, it seemed like the Vow tried to take away all agency from Mack and the other women in top positions.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78353 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 4:44 pm to
This really should be a much larger story than it is. I went down the rabbit hole on this last week and was up the whole night. It’s all way crazier than I knew. Also every one of these people is a Biden voter. You can get mad and down vote but you know it’s true. People need to start asking themselves why prosperous, intelligent white people chase these things so hard- Scientology, this bullshite, Progressivism, etc.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20475 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 5:39 pm to
Ok, so o haven’t watched the HBO doc or this starz one yet, but I’d like to. Which one is better, and gives you the the most dirt?
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