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re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - Official Teaser Trailer
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:45 am to BulldogXero
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:45 am to BulldogXero
It's not wrong, I'm just saying there's a disconnect when talking about the universe of the movies
Some people don't include the EU if they even know about it
Some people don't include the EU if they even know about it
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:52 am to DelU249
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Some people don't include the EU if they even know about it
The old EU is dead, but the comics, video games, and books released post Disney buyout are all canon and should be taken into account when discussing the Star Wars universe as a whole
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 8:54 am
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:57 am to BulldogXero
im not really disagreeing, but the thing with imaginations is you can discard something you don't like and that's IF you even know about it.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 8:58 am
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:59 am to blueboy
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By your own repeated admission, it is a departure, and yes, it's for the sake of having a woman. But it's marketing posing as "social justice."
You're being told what to think by "elites" who think you are too stupid to vote and should just do whatever they dictate.
And BTW, how is the Finn character not as ham-handed an attempt at pandering to blacks as Jar Jar and the Gungams were? They "include" a black guy but is the the "greatest pilot in the galaxy?" No. Oscar Isaac got that one. Is he a general or a cool villain? No, he's the goofy comic relief. Poe even gives him his name like fricking Friday in Robinson Crusoe, for crissake.
But hey, he might hook up with the skinny white girl so JJ can get his de facto BBC cuckolding freak on, so I guess it's okay
You're such a terrible poster.
You were complaining about the SJW-aspect of the Force Awakens a month prior to its release. Then, when there really wasn't any forced social justice message in the film, you just started harping on minor, innocent things claiming them to be some liberal conspiracy when they really aren't.
You decided long before the movie came out that you weren't going to like it for various reasons. Your worn-out schtick has gotten old.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:05 am to Antonio Moss
While I agree, having this character be female just makes little sense, TBH. You're sending in a spy into the Empire, which we know at this point of time is predominantly male. I mean I don't think at any point was a female shown as part of the empire in III or IV unless I'm wrong? So, the spy we choose to infiltrate the Empire and hope they don't get detected is a female? Honestly that just is poor writing 
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:08 am to DelU249
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im not really disagreeing, but the thing with imaginations is you can discard something you don't like and that's IF you even know about it.
I do the same thing with most Old Republic era EU material (KOTOR I and II, SWTOR, and Tales of the Jedi will alway be canon to me), but that doesn't hold much weight outside of my own personal fantasy. TCW and Rebels have already made KOTOR practically noncanon, but I ignore or find excuses for the logical inconsistencies.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 9:15 am
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:09 am to CrazyTigerFan
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But frick the good stories and characters in the EU, because money.
It was impossible to include the EU in the new Disney Star Wars Universe. The best triology from the EU takes place just a few years after ROTJ. Unless Disney was going to recast all the main characters from the OT (which would be a disaster), there was really no way to do this.
Plus, there is a lot of awful stuff in the EU. Disney's decision to wipe the EU clean and then pick and choose the good stuff out of the EU was the best option available.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:12 am to Antonio Moss
Consdering it was the first to kick off the EU universe, the Thrawn Trilogy really was amazing.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:30 am to DelU249
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m not really disagreeing, but the thing with imaginations is you can discard something you don't like and that's IF you even know about it
That is fine and all for you but you can't just discard it when somebody brings it up. Canon is the canon.
The universe is not just the movies because that is what you want it to be.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:03 am to Mystery
I didn't do that though...and yes you can. That's how imaginations work. Anyway, a movie is a self contained entity, if I have to read a book to understand what the frick is happening in a movie, that movie fricking sucks
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 10:07 am
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:39 am to DelU249
That is a silly way of looking at things. I have never read one book about Star Wars but I am not going to tell somebody that didn't happen because I didn't read it. If it is canon it is canon. The Universe is what it is, and it does not matter what form it is in. .Sure in your own mind you can think what you want but that doesn't mean it is the facts.
For example. As silly as midi-chlorians are, they happened.
For example. As silly as midi-chlorians are, they happened.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:55 am to Mystery
I'm not saying they can discount your opinion. I'm saying you can't discount their imagination because "canon"
Frankly, I think separate mediums should relate but not overlap. Lucas kind of began the multi medium marketing with "shadows of the empire"
I'm sure the EU has some great shite in it too, from what I understand they kind of borrow from it in the new movie and ive never heard someone say "the thrawn trilogy sucked"
But one of the major ironies is that sometimes when you're trying to expand a universe you shrink it, you leave less to the imagination and you can retroactively make a character less unique (there's no better examples than darth Vader & boba fett)
I remember constantly hearing Lucas talk about the prequels in terms of "explaining things from the OT" and that really was a poor foundation for making those movies
Like I said I'm not into the EU so I can't say specifically how it did the same thing, but it's not a stretch to imagine. I like the rebels cartoon, but it does do precisely what I'm talking about...shrinking the universe
Just my long winded 2 cents
Frankly, I think separate mediums should relate but not overlap. Lucas kind of began the multi medium marketing with "shadows of the empire"
I'm sure the EU has some great shite in it too, from what I understand they kind of borrow from it in the new movie and ive never heard someone say "the thrawn trilogy sucked"
But one of the major ironies is that sometimes when you're trying to expand a universe you shrink it, you leave less to the imagination and you can retroactively make a character less unique (there's no better examples than darth Vader & boba fett)
I remember constantly hearing Lucas talk about the prequels in terms of "explaining things from the OT" and that really was a poor foundation for making those movies
Like I said I'm not into the EU so I can't say specifically how it did the same thing, but it's not a stretch to imagine. I like the rebels cartoon, but it does do precisely what I'm talking about...shrinking the universe
Just my long winded 2 cents
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:01 am to Mystery
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For example. As silly as midi-chlorians are, they happened.
But they didn't because the Star Wars universe to me is star wars, empire, Jedi (though it's not a good movie) and TFA and until they make midichlorians tied directly with those movies, it's easy for me to dismiss.
TFA was very careful to not make the events of the prequels intertwined with this new movie (with the cast from the OT) they had maz kanata say the word "sith" so I'm really only stuck with "sith" being the dark side opposition to the Jedi. I'm actually hoping they make it I can continue to reject the monasticism of the Jedi Knights. (Bad start with Luke's costume in TFA
)Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:24 am to DelU249
Just rewatched the Trailer. I think my favorite part might be the intertwining of the Imperial March with the Star Wars theme at the end.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:26 am to hg
Another female lead
Do not want
frick disney
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:34 am to hg
looks bland and meh. sick of women . What about alien characters?
Posted on 4/8/16 at 12:33 pm to DelU249
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Anyway, a movie is a self contained entity, if I have to read a book to understand what the frick is happening in a movie, that movie fricking sucks
Well this describes my feeling towards the entire Harry Potter movie series.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 1:25 pm to hg
I'm calling it...she's Reys mom.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 2:15 pm to hg
Why is everyone British in the new Star Wars movies.
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