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re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - Official Teaser Trailer

Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:09 pm to
those aren't my words, I said I wouldn't want an attractive woman as a spy unless she was usin that booty to sex her way close to someone
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:09 pm to
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Not to mention a completely logical choice
Because that's what drives good art. Logic.
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The Empire is a male-dominated culture that views women as weaker and not worthy to serve.
There's really not much evidence of this at all, unless you really reach for it.
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That makes it a smart move to send in a woman as she can be overlooked.
That's definitely reaching for it.
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People seem to forget that the Empire in the originals was all male, most likely all white.
No, they were mostly whatever Jango was.
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The Rebels were a multi-racial, multi-speciel group led by a woman.
Leis was "a member of the rebel alliance," not the leader of it.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:10 pm to
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those aren't my words


I know, I just didn't care to go back to the original post, and just quoted off of your quote.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:11 pm to
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There's really not much evidence of this at all, unless you really reach for it.


It's not really explicit in the movies but the EU makes it pretty clear that the Empire leadership is racist and bigoted as frick. Even if that technically doesn't count anymore it wouldn't be going against what has been accepted as canon in the past.

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No, they were mostly whatever Jango was.


Clone troops? Sure. The actual leadership? Almost purely white male Brits.

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Leis was "a member of the rebel alliance," not the leader of it.


Mon Mothma says hello baw



This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 5:18 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:15 pm to
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And BTW, how is the Finn character not as ham-handed an attempt at pandering to blacks as Jar Jar and the Gungams were? They "include" a black guy but is the the "greatest pilot in the galaxy?" No. Oscar Isaac got that one. Is he a general or a cool villain? No, he's the goofy comic relief. Poe even gives him his name like fricking Friday in Robinson Crusoe, for crissake.

it's funny because they do try and black up his dialogue at one point "droid please"

i guess abrams thinks all black people even in a galaxy far far away got some ghetto in them

but i liked finn, and i like boyega
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:16 pm to
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Clone troops? Sure. The actual leadership? Almost purely white male Brits.


Yea, but nobody said leadership, they said the Empire. Most of the empire were the troops, so naturally they'd be whatever race Jango was. Italian? Some sort of Spanish? Who knows.

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Mon Mothma says hello baw

Female, sure, but would anyone really describe her as a strong character? I mean really?
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 5:17 pm
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:17 pm to
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And BTW, how is the Finn character not as ham-handed an attempt at pandering to blacks as Jar Jar and the Gungams were? They "include" a black guy but is the the "greatest pilot in the galaxy?" No. Oscar Isaac got that one. Is he a general or a cool villain? No, he's the goofy comic relief. Poe even gives him his name like fricking Friday in Robinson Crusoe, for crissake.



He doesn't know his Dad either
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:18 pm to
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i liked finn, and i like boyega


Now we just need them to kiss.

Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:20 pm to
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Female, sure, but would anyone really describe her as a strong character? I mean really?


Strong character in the films or not, she is still the leader of the Rebellion in SW canon.

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Yea, but nobody said leadership, they said the Empire. Most of the empire were the troops, so naturally they'd be whatever race Jango was. Italian? Some sort of Spanish? Who knows.


The clones are little more than cannon fodder and are pretty much all gone by the time New Hope happens. I doubt they are even viewed by Empire leadership as fully human w/the way they were programmed from birth.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 5:22 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:21 pm to

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He doesn't know his Dad either
i'm proud of myself that this never crossed my mind



Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:21 pm to
What, the crybaby? Then what the hell was the old bearded guy? Or Organa?
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:24 pm to
Ogana is one of the early leaders and is killed in New Hope on Alderaan. Bearded guy is a random general that reports to MM.
Posted by DelU249
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:24 pm to
this has descended into an extreme nerd fight

who gives a shite who was what...i don't need that shite explained to me, those people are on screen for like 10 seconds

the internal organizational hierarchy of the rebellion was never interesting or important

i actually kind of liked wondering if the rebels we see in empire are a cell or if that's the entirety of their forces
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:25 pm to
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He doesn't know his Dad either
Oh holy shite.
Posted by DelU249
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:28 pm to
he was taken from a family he'll never know, and we'll never know how many deadbeat dads or baby mamas that family had

he tried to ditch rey halfway through the movie before even bothering to knock her up
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:34 pm to
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so naturally they'd be whatever race Jango was. Italian?


Kiwi.

I hope they include a cameo of a grey Jimmy Smits in this.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 5:37 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:37 pm to
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he tried to ditch rey halfway through the movie before even bothering to knock her up
Well, to be fair, Luke's dad didn't show up until after Luke had achieved athletic, I mean Jedi fame.

And Anakin didn't even have a father. Like, not at all. He's either Jesus or the ultimate pimp.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:40 pm to
Mace Windu was celibate.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:13 pm to
i hope not, why would we need to see that? It's like the end of revenge of the sith where they had to put everyone right where they were at the beginning of Star Wars, everyone just wait here for 20 years.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:14 pm to
Luke's dad was the blackest brotha in the galaxy.

Ok enough before some dipshit admin bans me for some harmless joking
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