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re: Report: Kathleen Kennedy keen on replacing Indiana Jones with a female

Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:00 am to
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Because it's true. But just for the record, Spielberg produces Spielberg films. Everybody else just gets him coffee.





Add one to the pile of people here who dont know what producers do.

No, Spielberg is not doing the day in day out producing his own films. He's too busy working on pre pro and filming them.

Producers are NOT coffee fetchers. Anyone who actually believes that nonsense is ignorant at best and a flat out moron at worst.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:03 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:28 am to
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who dont know what producers do.
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Producers are NOT coffee fetchers
Yeah, sometimes they are. Sometimes, it's some guy who let them use his property for a shoot. Sometimes it's a person who gave them money and did nothing else. Sometimes, it's the director's GF who sucks a mean dick.

People get "producer" credits for a whole lot of reasons.
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Add one to the pile
Indeed.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:31 am to
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Yeah, sometimes they are. Sometimes, it's some guy who let them use his property for a shoot. Sometimes it's a person who gave them money and did nothing else. Sometimes, it's the director's GF who sucks a mean dick.

People get "producer" credits for a whole lot of reasons.


Wrong. What you are talking of is the job of Executive Producer and they aren't coffee fetchers either.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:34 am to
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I don't know why you keep pushing such a stupid arse narrative when its so obviously wrong. Like god damn dude get a life. Just b/c she produced a couple of Star Wars movies you didn't like doesn't mean you have to make up a dumb sexist attack to belittle her. The fact that you keep trying to make that claim implies you have no earthly idea what a producer even does.



frick right off. I'm not attacking her because she's a woman. I'm attacking her because she's merely road on coattails of much greater men... or I guess people since I guess that's a trigger warning for you. I'm looking at her filmography and can't find one good movie that doesn't involve either Spielberg or some other director/writer that knows what they're doing.
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Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:43 am to


Don't play dumb. Claiming all she did was "fetch coffee" and only got a job b/c she was having sex with Frank Marshall is 100% sexist and you know it.

A person does not get that many producer credits or work with a director like Spielberg for that long if they are just there to run menial errands. It's such a stupid claim that you can't even defend it with facts and have to force yourself to completely ignore how much work goes into producing to make yourself believe it.

It's a stunningly awful take. It's so bad that you should be laughed off this board for being an idiot.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:50 am to
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Don't play dumb. Claiming all she did was "fetch coffee" and only got a job b/c she was having sex with Frank Marshall is 100% sexist and you know it.



I'm sorry if she fits the stereotype, but it's true. You attacking me as a sexist for saying it is just a bullshite excuse to get out of this and not really address my points.

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It's a stunningly awful take. It's so bad that you should be laughed off this board for being an idiot.



Look at the up and downvotes on this thread, and then get back to me if I should be laughed off this board for being an idiot.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:00 am to
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I'm sorry if she fits the stereotype, but it's true. You attacking me as a sexist for saying it is just a bullshite excuse to get out of this and not really address my points.


I'm not trying to get out of anything. Your claim is flat wrong and sexist to boot. Claiming a woman fricked her way to being a producer and was really just the coffee girl is sexist. Period. There is no way around it no matter how pissy it makes you to get called out for it. Tough fricking shite if you don't like it.

It's clear as day you have no idea what you are talking about b/c people do not rise to being and last that long as a major producer if they have zero talent. I'm sorry but that's just not the way it works.


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Look at the up and downvotes on this thread, and then get back to me if I should be laughed off this board for being an idiot.


Oh noes! Down votes from people who don't know what a producer does and are mad Kennedy produced Star Wards movies they don't like! What ever shall I do?
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 10:02 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19258 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:06 am to
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How are these types of gender reversing movies still being greenlit?

Girl Ghostbusters was a flop



It’s not about money. These peoples identities are wrapped up in politics. It’s an almost religious statement for them.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:07 am to
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Down votes from people who don't know what a producer does and are mad Kennedy produced Star Wards movies they don't like!


I downvoted you for your incessant desire to label his POV sexist rather than just wrong if that's what you thought.

Thank goodness Kathleen wasn't also black and trans, because he'd have also been labeled racist and transphobic to boot...
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 10:08 am
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:10 am to
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I downvoted you for your incessant desire to label his POV sexist rather than just wrong if that's what you thought.


He straight up said she was a coffee girl who got the job b/c she slept with a friend of Spielberg. That's some sexist shite. You don't have to like it but that's what it is.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 10:10 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:17 am to
It’s true. She used sex to climb the ladder.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:20 am to
If Kennedy a least made good movies, then the coffee fetcher "producer" card wouldn't be played. Because she would then have proven she can make good films.
Then she would have more credibility when making woke decisions in established film franchises.

In other words, F'ing up the Star Wars Universe has consequences.

Or at least it should.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108541 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:20 am to
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Your claim is flat wrong and sexist to boot.Claiming a woman fricked her way to being a producer and was really just the coffee girl is sexist. Period. There is no way around it no matter how pissy it makes you to get called out for it. Tough fricking shite if you don't like it.




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It's clear as day you have no idea what you are talking about b/c people do not rise to being and last that long as a major producer if they have zero talent. I'm sorry but that's just not the way it works.



:rotflmao:

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Oh noes! Down votes from people who don't know what a producer does and are mad Kennedy produced Star Wards movies they don't like! What ever shall I do?


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50522 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:24 am to
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He straight up said she was a coffee girl who got the job b/c she slept with a friend of Spielberg. That's some sexist shite. You don't have to like it but that's what it is.


What has she done to prove otherwise? Based on the entirety of her career, it seems like a valid description.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108541 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:25 am to
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He straight up said she was a coffee girl who got the job b/c she slept with a friend of Spielberg. That's some sexist shite. You don't have to like it but that's what it is.



You may as well be calling me a racist for calling Michael Vick a thug because he trains dogs to kill each other. Sorry, if the shoe fits. A man can also fetch coffee and sleep his way to the top.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:26 am to
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Remember when we used to say, “Well can’t be worse than the prequels?”


I always viewed comparing the prequels and the sequels like comparing two different piles of shite by the road, and then arguing which pile of shite was the nicer pile.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:32 am to
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He straight up said she was a coffee girl who got the job b/c she slept with a friend of Spielberg. That's some sexist shite. You don't have to like it but that's what it is.


You realize we're on a message board where you can quote the ACTUAL text, right? Here's what he actually wrote:

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Anything Spielberg was associated with she’s a “producer” as well, even when all she did was fetch Spielberg’s coffee and frick his producer friend. Best right place right time in history.


At no point did he mention her sex. He simply suggested she fetched Spielberg's coffee and fricked his friend. That could have been a guy doing exactly that, correct? Are there no male assistants that have menial jobs like "fetching coffee?" You inferred sexism, the same way you'd have likely inferred racism or transphobia had the target of his accusation been black or trans. It's easier than arguing the point at hand.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:33 am to
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At no point did he mention her sex. He simply suggested she fetched Spielberg's coffee and fricked his friend. That could have been a guy doing exactly that, correct?

WTF?
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25200 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:35 am to
So... lets say you want to do the whole globe trotting adventurer in the roaring 20s and 30s thing. That isn't a bad idea actually. People will absolutely watch a good movie set in the era.

You want to do it with a female lead? Well, there were historical female adventurers and explorers in that time period. Right actress, right director, and right script you can pull that off too.

On the other hand... replacing an established and beloved character? You've just gone from an interesting, and potentially successful, premise to pissing off the very fans that would otherwise be interested in the movie.

Come up with an original IP in that setting. Don't enrage the fans. It is not rocket science.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:35 am to
Could someone please take some Windex and wipe off Kathleen Kennedy from Lucasfilm?
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