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re: Rank the Harry Potter books (or movies) (Spoilers) (long)

Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:25 pm to
Not when he died. When he destroyed the horcrux that was inside Harry.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:30 pm to
I was trying to find something online to confirm whether or not he could still speak Parseltongue because I've always been curious. I couldn't find a link but I found a few sites that claim JK Rowling confirmed that he could not anymore because Voldemorts soul was gone. I had thought that since he had already done it, it would stick with him, I guess not.
This post was edited on 8/28/12 at 6:31 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:34 pm to
It was always a mystery why there was a connection between them until the end when it was revealed that Harry was the unintentional 8th horcrux.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:36 pm to
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It was always a mystery why there was a connection between them until the end when it was revealed that Harry was the unintentional 8th horcrux.

Well I know that, this was just specifically whether or not Harry could still speak Parseltongue which was never said in the books.

Trust me, if it's in the books, I probably know it due to the amount of times I've read each one
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:42 pm to
So have I. plenty

It's never specifically stated but I think it's safe to that since that piece of his soul was the only reason harry could do all that, the gifts would be gone.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:43 pm to
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It's never specifically stated but I think it's safe to that since that piece of his soul was the only reason harry could do all that, the gifts would be gone.

Yea I just figured since he's already done it, he already has understood snakes, it would stick with him. Probably mostly because I wanted him to be able to, it's a useful skill
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:46 pm to
And one that freaks people out. I'm sure he was glad to be rid of it.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:47 pm to
Yea well shite he's the most famous person in the history of wizards at this point, who cares if it freaks people out
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 7:02 pm to
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Probably mostly because I wanted him to be able to, it's a useful skill


I was actually thinking something like this, too.

Not that I think it would necessarily come in handy, I just thought it was cool.
This post was edited on 8/28/12 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 7:05 pm to
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Not that I think it would necessarily come in handy

shite it saved his arse a few times
This post was edited on 8/28/12 at 7:06 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 7:08 pm to
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His attempts at the cruciatus curse failed miserably.


Because that spell requires a natural cruelty. Its good that Harry can't do that curse effectively.

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It was almost painful to watch him get abused by Snape. To be fair, Rowling did give the impression that youth and inexperience may have a lot to do with that.



No shite, not to mention behind Dumbledore and Voldemort, Snape was likely the most powerful Wizard alive.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 7:10 pm to
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I'll never understand why people try to make Snape out as being a "good" person. The dude was anything but good. Rowling tried her best to make me feel sorry for Snape when we are given a glimpse of his past in Order of the Phoenix and Deathly Hallows but I couldn't find it in my heart to feel sympathy for him. He was deeply involved in the dark arts, he constantly hung around with future Death Eaters, and the only reason why he turned is because of his selfish obsession with Lily. The dude couldn't have cared less if James or Harry died so long as Lily's life was spared. Voldemort actually obeyed Snape's wishes that night and tried to spare Lily's life. Her refusal to give up her son was the only thing that forced Voldemort to kill her.

So the dude wasn't good at all. Sure...his stint as a double agent in the final few years of his life was brave beyond question, but I will never consider Snape a good person.


Traumatic experiences change people inwardly. I'm not saying Snape is a saint by any means, but its unfair to call him a terrible person.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 7:13 pm to
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If you honestly think that Voldemort would have spared her life after killing Harry, you're nuts. He told her to step aside merely out of it being more convenient.



I'm pretty confident Voldemort would have spared her. We went into his mind into that night and he had no real intention of killing her as long as she did what he said. He had every intention of killing James and Harry, but not Lily.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 7:18 pm to
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OMLandshark


You should go read a few pages back where we covered all this
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 7:21 pm to
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He might not have intended from the beginning on killing her, but there is no way he was doing a lowly servant a favor.


Why not? Voldemort has claimed to reward loyal followers. Snape gave him the most valuable information since he learned of Horcruxes. Perhaps he felt his way of rewarding Snape. Killing off James who Voldemort knew he hated and then Lily could go to Snape's side. Voldemort may have found Snape's love sickening, but he may allow for an exception to be made with Snape due to the fact that he delivered him the one person who could defeat him.
Posted by laxer17
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 8:20 pm to
books-
Deathly Hallows
order of phoenix
chamber of secrets
hbp
goblet of fire
Prisoner of Azkaban
sorcerer's stone
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 8:34 pm to
Heres something I posted in the OP and we never really talked about regarding the end of the Third book
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OK, I get when you go back in time you don't exactly want to announce it to the world, I see why people would be confused, sure. But why the frick wouldn't they be able to tell themselves?!?!?!? Hermione knows she has the Time Turner, if she busted into Hagrids cottage, the past Hermione would know exactly what was going on and could help explain it; it really wouldn't have been that big of an issue. And if this had happened they could have captured Wormtail, and cleared Sirius's name pretty easily really. Now I get why Rowling didn't write it like that because of the rest of the series, but I wish she would have found a different way for them to go back in time, or just a different way to save Sirius that doesn't have such a big plot hole. Also, very conveniently they destroyed all the Time Turners in the 5th book and for some reason can't make anymore I mean clearly she realized these time machines were way to convenient and would really make Harry's job easier, so they all got destroyed, I mean it's kinda lame; I wish she never would have brought time travel into the world.


This has always bugged me, especially the conveniently destroying them all and not having any more part
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:27 am to
That's a good point. I was going to say that maybe they just weren't supposed to use it to drastically effect the past, and they only did it to save two innocent lives. However, it seems a bit silly to think that they can't use it to stop evil but Hermione can use it to double up on classes.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/29/12 at 8:16 am to
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Snape was the perfect storm; he was "good" persay but he was highly trained in dark magic, which gives him advantage over most people. Snape was incredibly gifted and smart, not to mention all the shite he's been through so he's well seasoned. I don't think anyone (not including Dumbledore) in the order would've stood a chance against Snape. (Maybe McGonagal just because she knew him well)



Mad eye could've given him a fight no doubt... I suspect Sirius could have if not for Azkaban as well
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/29/12 at 10:42 am to
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That's a good point. I was going to say that maybe they just weren't supposed to use it to drastically effect the past, and they only did it to save two innocent lives. However, it seems a bit silly to think that they can't use it to stop evil but Hermione can use it to double up on classes.

Yea that device was just wy to convenient IMO
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