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re: PER Collider: Disney pulling the plug on star wars stand alone projects
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:14 pm to Baloo
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:14 pm to Baloo
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I don't doubt that you boycotted the film. But you are in a small minority.
Do you understand business practices at all? You do not piss off and turn away your most fanatic consumer base. They generate the cult movement and keep it running throughout time.
You're right. Mrs. Suzie who saw the OT in the theaters and never gave them another thought won't care the direction of the future movies. But Bobby who saw the OT in theaters five times each movie, purchased every poster and toy available, posts on Star Wars message boards, and owns a dozen Star Wars t-shirts from over the years does care about the direction of the future movies.
You want the Bobbies of the world to help make the franchise a phenomenon and not just another blockbuster popcorn movie that the average joe catches on a Saturday afternoon.
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:16 pm to Tiger Ryno
I predict they scrap the next movie in the trilogy as well. Will be several years before we see another SW movie
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:17 pm to StringedInstruments
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:19 pm to bamafan1001
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:20 pm to StringedInstruments
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You want the Bobbies of the world to help make the franchise a phenomenon and not just another blockbuster popcorn movie that the average joe catches on a Saturday afternoon
Well said
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:21 pm to Big_Slim
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:24 pm to Baloo
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I don't doubt that you boycotted the film. But you are in a small minority
The box office numbers say I'm not in the minority. If you had said 2 weeks after TFA, there would be a solo/chewy film, people would have gone ape shite and it would have made more than Rogue One.
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The vast majority of people simply do not care one way or another about the SJW v FanBoy battle royale
I don't know what you're talking about. The last movie was terrible, and it pissed off the millions of people that grew up idolizing Luke Skywalker and the star wars saga. There was sjw shite in TFA, but we allowed it b/c we still like the story and future of the star wars saga. I, as well as millions more, do not give a shite about that saga anymore. and the shitty audience score for TLJ tells us that I'm not alone, and I'm not a minority.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:27 pm to Baloo
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Star Wars is the single most popular piece of pop culture in history. Anyone with a passing interest in pop culture cares a least a little bit.
The huge empire is not built on a small cabal of hard core fans, it's built on a massive population of casual fans from all parts of the earth. Star Wars is not niche programming. It's the movie I can take my mom and my kids to, and everyone has a general idea of what's going on.
I'd also dispute that hard core fans are monolithic. There's a huge fissure amongst the fans regarding the new films but again, most people do not care about that debate. Most people are not even aware the debate exists. And thank God for that. Star Wars is pretty much the definition of the mainstream. Most people will dutifully see one of the movies every year, but the Extended Universe started to demand more time and investment, and casual fans wanted no part of it.
Who the hell wants a Han Solo movie without Harrison Ford? What is the point of that?
Wait, are you actually arguing that Solo's low numbers aren't directly related to TLJ and Disney's horrid response to its critics?
Solo's opening weekend was almost half of Rogue One. People boycotted the movie because of TLJ. There is no other reasonable way to explain it.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:27 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:31 pm to Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:31 pm to DelU249
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Disney makes great shite. they make shite star wars. they don't get star wars
With Marvel movies you can have the "essence" of the characters and stories and get away with it. Spider-Man can be Iron Man's sidekick, Stark and Banner can create Vision, Wolverine can be six feet tall...
Star Wars fans need more than "Luke's still a hero but he's a hero who freaks out and tries to kill his nephew, tosses away his legacy over his shoulder, then commits suicide by expending his energies across the universe for a fake-out duel." Luke has to be Luke and you can't screw around with the movie canon.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:32 pm to DelU249
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it also wasn't ham handed, but agree
I didn't find there to be a bunch of SJW nonsense in TFA. The valid criticism was that it was a close rehash of ANH (in actuality the whole OT) but even that was forgivable given what they were trying to establish.
TLJ was simply an abortion. And Disney's response to valid criticism was even worse.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:33 pm to StringedInstruments
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You want the Bobbies of the world to help make the franchise a phenomenon and not just another blockbuster popcorn movie that the average joe catches on a Saturday afternoon.
Meh. I think you are over-reacting to this. Yes, star wars pissed off a bunch of incels with TLJ. But they also made it appealing to Millennial mothers who are dropping out the next set of bobbies.
I didn't go see Solo, but it was due to time constraints. And now I don't really want to go see it, not on the biggest screen. Plus I am still busy.
I think Solo wasn't a big success as Disney is trying to cram too many franchises. Look at their release schedule. You had thor, TLJ, Black Panther, Avengers, and Solo. While they have some unique audiences, but it could be a bit of fatigue.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:34 pm to brian_wilson
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Yes, star wars pissed off a bunch of incels with TLJ. But they also made it appealing to Millennial mothers who are dropping out the next set of bobbies.
You guys are in fricking denial.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:35 pm to Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:37 pm to bamafan1001
They are not getting rid of episode 9. They had been talking about taking a few years off, at least from the main movies, to focus on Indiana Jones. This gives them a good excuse to do that.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:40 pm to DelU249
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star wars fatigue isn't the problem, at least as it relates to BO return
I think this what you want to believe. But coming out just 5-6 months after TLJ I think is a big part of why it tanked even if TLJ had been great and well regarded I think there’s a good chance it tanks.
Personally I should be the target audience, I saw Star Wars on the first run when it was just Star Wars. and waiting for 3 years for Empire and another 3 for Jedi was betothan if they had come out 6 months apart but I had no interest in Solo and I do think it’s fatigue. Personally I don’t think any of the new movies including Rouge One were very good so that’s a big part of it but ultimately I think all the movies including the prequels are just trying to pay homage to the first 3. There’s a great interesting universe there so I don’t need to see the same old characters, plot etc
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:40 pm to Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:42 pm to Will Munny
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Lucasfilm has officially announced development on a new Star Wars trilogy focused on new characters from The Last Jedi writer/director Rian Johnson
The delusion is strong
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
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