re: Ozark Finale Discussion **SPOILERS FOR SERIES FINALE!**

Three and Sam were the most useless characters in the show

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Three and Sam were the most useless characters in the show

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Sam almost seemed to be there for comic relief. I have no idea what the point of even having Three around was.

Caught up on the thread, and I notice a ton of complaining. And honestly, I can't refute most of it.

But that being said, I still think this show was great. Sure, it didn't stick the landing as well as it could/should have, but I thought it ended fairly realistically. The rich and powerful get away with everything. That's how the world works a lot of times. And of all the bullshite with Marty and Wendy, they are definitely rich and powerful, and very well-connected politically. So as much as I don't like them getting away with shite, that's reality in a lot of ways. And they are still in the game and playing cat and mouse for a while (if not forever). They still have Camila to work with/deal with, and they have the FBI at least somewhat in their corner. So while it would've been nice for a little more closure, I don't think the ending was THAT bad.

Earlier in the thread, this:

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Metaphorical. It was to show that the Byrdes were untouchable. A car crash that should’ve killed everybody in the vehicle…yet nobody even gets a scratch. It was the writers’ way of foreshadowing that nothing, not even dumb fate, was going to bring this family down.

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...made a ton of sense for me. I didn't look at it that way, but that's a nice way of looking at it. That being said though, I think two main things would've made this season much better for me:

First, nixing the car wreck at the beginning of the season. They could've even kept it in the season, if nothing more than to show what I quoted above. That would've worked just fine. But introducing the season with it was a mistake IMO, and we knew the whole time something was building to that wreck, we just didn't know how or when.

Second, and more importantly IMO, Wendy's dad not being involved. The whole "Ben" investigation, fighting for the kids, the faux church/holy bullshite, etc. It just brought a lot of unnecessary things to the show and felt like too much was crammed in there that wasn't relevant. They could've still had drama with the kids leaving some other way without the grandfather being involved. But without him we don't get stupid, unnecessary drama, Wendy begging on her knees for the kids, the whole "Wendy committing herself" storyline, etc. With how much time was wasted on the "Ben/grandfather/crazy Wendy/Byrde kids storyline, they could've shortened the season by damn near half, and the other stories could've been a lot tighter (since they wouldn't have involved "insane" Wendy).

Had those two things happened (or not happened), I feel like people would have enjoyed this season a lot more. I know I certainly would've.

This was the other post that resonated with me the most:

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I mentally checked out after Wyatt was killed…double homicide, missing baby, cops all over the house…then Ruth just walks into the barn and there’s piles of heroin on the table that no one found? The last couple of seasons was peppered with that type of totally unrealistic scenarios (even by suspended belief standards) that went too far.

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I agree almost completely with that. For a show that obviously requires a suspension of belief, there were far too many things that just made zero sense and would never be able to fly. And as best as we could tell, the Byrdes weren't greasing the pockets of law enforcement, so it's not like the police would just ignore that shite on purpose. Things like that made no sense to me. But I also just accepted it because that's always been one of my biggest gripes about the show. It's great and interesting and suspenseful and all that, but man there's just no way all this shite could keep happening with no repercussions.

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I’m proudly one of only 10-12 people in this thread who knows who that is.

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I’d venture to say more than 10-12 know…

Doubtful

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I liked it. I thought it was fitting for the show. The Byrds get away with everything and all the other people in their orbit suffer.

I think they needed Wendy's dad in the storyline to demonstrate that her upbringing and the abuse she suffered made her the a-hole she is today.

I do wish that Ruth would have lived, but that wasn't going to happen. Everyone wanted Wendy to die, but I bet the majority of viewers didn't want that for Ruth. She was the most popular character on the show and there's no way the writers were going to let her live. At least they had her running her mouth and shite talking to the very end, which is true to her character and makes her the most memorable (and imitated) person on the show.

I thought the last few episodes leading up to the finale were pretty good overall but the last episode was underwhelming like many have mentioned.

It would have been sweet if there was a huge throwdown / shootout at the gala once Navaro's sister found out about Ruth.

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At least they had her running her mouth and shite talking to the very end, which is true to her character

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I have dealt with people like her(no, not drug dealers) in life and business and its always the same.

They have this chip on their shoulder that they deserve way more than they currently have. The problem is that the Ruth's of the world have a low ceiling in business, and in life in general. They are born into poverty and usually low intelligence. Their ignorance is usually their downfall.

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hate that Nelson got killed off.

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With you.

I’m another who knows John Boy.

This show was never great it was good. The final season sucked and the finale was game of thrones bad or worse.

Some of the worst writing for a final season. So many things to complain it would take hours to write. Just finished the finale