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re: One Year Ago Today, Rian Johnson Broke The M/TV Board

Posted on 12/17/18 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 3:07 pm to
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The hyperspace ram established shields don't matter and half a fleet can be effected by it.


No it didn't. It established that a ship that's over two miles long was able to destroy a portion of a larger ship and several smaller ship. at trying to argue that this somehow means a ship barely pushing 100 feet could destroy a planet or a star. Or that an X-Wing could destroy the Death Star.

And that's at the most basic of levels. We don't know how much complexity or luck went into the destruction of that ship. We don't really know anything about it, other than it happened.
Posted by RedPants
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
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OK, cool.

Now, explain how this...


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...is supported by what you posted.

Dude, you were proved wrong then moved the goalpost on him. Adapting your opinion when new information arises is a good thing.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 3:13 pm to
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proved wrong


That hasn't happened.

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moved the goalpost




I literally quoted his original point in my reply. If I moved anything (I didn't), then I moved it back to where it should have been to begin with.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 3:43 pm to
He lives to shitpost in these threads.

Notice how all he does is criticize and comment on other posts.

Go through the thread and count the cogent points he has offered up on his own. The over/under is 1. . .I'll take the under.

When cornered, or asked to provide his personal thoughts/opinions. . .he ignores the post, and continues criticizing his betters. He's kind of a coward, which is why most of us just ignore him. Hard to have a conversation with someone who literally offers nothing.

I disagree with about everything Baloo posted, and think his opinions are hot diarrhea. . .but at least he gives you HIS opinion.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:24 pm to
Seeing some of you claim to have things figured out is one reason I come here.

This thread isn't about "DisplacedBuckeye's review of TLJ." If you want that, start your own thread. This thread is discussing the incredible melt that TLJ brought to this board one year ago. I'm trying to enjoy that.

Aside from that, the dude made a claim. I don't think it's a big deal to ask him to adequately support it. That hasn't happened yet.

This is a common cycle here. Someone makes a stupid point. I call them on it. They flail around attempting to get out of supporting their point. I ignore irrelevant and stupid questions to keep us focused on that point. Everyone melts.

It's not that hard. Ask better questions.

*Edit

The best argument made so far used the Japanese as an example, which made it a terrible argument.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:52 pm to
I dont really have anything to add to the thread. Its still remarkable how badly they messed up. Disney ended up making a better movie series out of Ant Man than Star Wars. Just really biggest failure in cinematic history.
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 4:57 pm to
TLJ was so terrible I held off watching solo for a while. Of course it semi bombed from the backlash of TLJ.

However Disney blamed it on the turmoil about the director and set... Like people actually cared about that.

After actually watching Solo, they should have hired Ron Howard to do episode nine as well
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 5:02 pm to
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Just really biggest failure in cinematic history.


Maybe, and I'd argue that TFA kicked it all off.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 5:22 pm to
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Having the ability to do something isn't the same as having the knowledge to do it.


Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:54 pm to
Just popping in to say frick Rian Johnson, again.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:20 pm to
I was considering rewatching TLJ to see Kylo and Yoda. This thread made me remember it's just not worth it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:29 pm to
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Nope. None of that establishes any rule that it can't be weaponized.


Then everyone but the purple haired lesbian gender studies professor is retarded. So it doesn’t make sense how they ever had any of this technology.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:51 pm to
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which made it a terrible argument.
Explain why this made it a terrible argument, please
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Excuse? No. It's one explanation of many possibilities. You don't have to like it because it isn't your story. It was never your story. Time to accept that.


No, in a universe of trillions over thousands of years, it is not a possibility. The people from Idiocracy would have thought of this, so in order for this to never have happened before, everyone but the lesbian professor has to have been brain dead, which means this technology could have never existed.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:56 pm to
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purple haired lesbian gender studies professor


This is really the problem most people have with that scene. No matter how much you try to hide it, this always comes out.

Just so we're on the same page, it's the only problem I really have with the scene as well. I just don't try to hide behind some nonsense about hyperspace weapons.

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So it doesn’t make sense how they ever had any of this technology.


Sure it does. From the article linked earlier:

"…hyperspace is a mystery more profound than gods and demons."

Why are we pretending that this is the first time Star Wars has made shite up to tell a story or create a moment in that story?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:00 pm to
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Explain why this made it a terrible argument, please


Because it was a huge failure for the Japanese. There's a reason that kamikaze attacks aren't doctrine for any military in the world.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:03 pm to
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No, in a universe of trillions over thousands of years, it is not a possibility.


We've seen every one of those trillions and all those thousands of years?

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so in order for this to never have happened before


Who says this is the case.

We haven't seen it in the movies =/= this hasn't happened in this fictional universe of trillions over thousands of years.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:25 pm to
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Because it was a huge failure for the Japanese. There's a reason that kamikaze attacks aren't doctrine for any military in the world.
It was a desperation move of a losing cause facing a superior force, and a hugely overwhelming Navy.

Akin to purple hair giraffe.

No?

Seem pretty damn similar, making it AT LEAST an adequate analogy.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:33 pm to
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No?


No.

For starters, they used kamikaze attacks prior to the United States even entering the war. Also, their widespread use only quickened defeat for Japan by rapidly deteriorating their air power. Considering Japanese culture and their views on defeat, this had much more to do with their views on honor and duty than them believing this to be a winning tactic.

Again, there's a reason this isn't used by any military. There's also a reason this is the only example anyone ever points to when making the point.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:45 pm to
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Shouldn't you be in one of the Disney threads anyways, melting about Disney princesses?


First off I am in a Disney related thread.

Secondly, I don’t demand that someone I date be retarded like you’re demanding everyone else on this board. So you’re either dating someone with the IQ around the temperature of a bowl of cereal or you’re alone.
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