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re: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood opening day check in thread ***Spoilers Inevitable***
Posted on 7/29/19 at 10:44 am to musick
Posted on 7/29/19 at 10:44 am to musick
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QT is a legend, but seems he's on the decline.
Agreed. You could argue that this film was made for his own gratification and nostalgia, and that he included little to develop any kind of story.
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 10:55 am to High C
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You could argue that this film was made for his own gratification and nostalgia, and that he included little to develop any kind of story.
You could say this about most of his movies.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 10:57 am to High C
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You could argue that this film was made for his own gratification and nostalgia, and that he included little to develop any kind of story.
pretty much what i was thinking the whole time.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:07 am to musick
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It was decent, but it has to go on the lower tier list of QT's films.
But even QTs worst film is better than 90% of the crap being churned out these days. The soundtrack (as always) was amazing and the visuals (as always) as well.
Pitt was great, and it was awesome to see Leo and Brad in the same film.
About how I felt about it too. I liked it enough, but probably will never rewatch it. I was disappointed in it, but still liked it OK if that makes sense.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:30 am to Jay Are
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You could say this about most of his movies.
I don’t agree with this at all. The story line may meander in his other films, some more than others, but there’s something there. All the references and the acting are great, but if you say that you don’t realistically spend 2+ hours of the movie wondering what’s going on, you may be lying to yourself. I’ve seen all of his films, and I’ve never had that feeling while watching any of them other than this one.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:31 am to High C
What kind of convertible was Cliff Booth driving?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:32 am to musick
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QT is a legend, but seems he's on the decline.
Kind of like how your favorite band puts out their 10th album and you like it, but it isn't anywhere near their great stuff they put out 15 years ago.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:01 pm to High C
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The story line may meander in his other films, some more than others, but there’s something there.
Just like I absolutely felt there was something here. Much more so than in Kill Bill or IB, for me. This story didn't work where others did for you. There is no objective decline here. From my perspective this movie is a reprieve from his decade-long decline, starting with IB.
I don't think IB is bad or anything, but I think it employs wonderfully written dialogue and great characters in service of lacking story, much like many feel about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:18 pm to Jay Are
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There is no objective decline here.
Well, we’re talking movies, so not much objectivity exists. Personally, IB blows Once Upon A Time... out of the water, but we have different opinions. : cheers:
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:22 pm to Jay Are
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employs wonderfully written dialogue and great characters in service of lacking story,
Once Upon lacks in all 3 compared to IB
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:07 pm to MF Doom
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Once Upon lacks in all 3 compared to IB
Yep, the dialogue was very disappointing in Once Upon.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:17 pm to High C
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IB blows Once Upon A Time... out of the water, but we have different opinions.
I agree and I like once upon a time. IB is one of his better movies IMO.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:18 pm to greenwave
It looked like a hopped 1960 Karmann Ghia roadster. I had to look it up. It’s a vw brand
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:27 pm to greenwave
quote:A VW Karmann Ghia. Same model that Uma Thurman wrecked filming Kill Bill.
What kind of convertible was Cliff Booth driving?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:28 pm to greenwave
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What kind of convertible was Cliff Booth driving?
1960 VW Karmann Ghia. Here's one in black:
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:40 pm to BRich
I knew it was a vw brand, but I couldn’t remember the model without looking it up. My neighbor had one when I was a kid. It’s a air cooled engine.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:53 pm to High C
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I liked it enough, but probably will never rewatch it. I was disappointed in it, but still liked it OK if that makes sense.
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The story line may meander in his other films, some more than others, but there’s something there. All the references and the acting are great, but if you say that you don’t realistically spend 2+ hours of the movie wondering what’s going on, you may be lying to yourself.
I agree with both of these statements. Disappointed may be a strong word, but agree nonetheless.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:55 pm to Jay Are
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From my perspective this movie is a reprieve from his decade-long decline, starting with IB.
I think IB is his best all around film
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:02 pm to MF Doom
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Once Upon lacks in all 3 compared to IB
I'll cede the dialogue to you, but I've already said in this thread why great dialogue would make little sense with these characters.
As for the story, and without wanting to store any real IB debate, I had trouble getting anything more than wish-fulfillment catharsis from IB. QT in Once Upon a Time and interested in the way we people handle losing a grip on what makes them special as they age. I think that's a potent idea. I think that's what makes the "boring" part in the middle so great. That's why I think the last 20 minutes are the most problematic part of the movie. It's undeniably entertaining, but it's hard to reconcile it with the narrative that has come before.
I do not love this movie, but I find it very interesting,and enjoy a lot of what it's doing.
Lastly, I respect that my IB opinion is a minority one. I also think blanket statements, like the one I'm responding to, are silly as hell when presented as matter of fact.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:18 pm to Jay Are
I enjoyed it. This one is more about Tarantino's penchant for storytelling, so those expecting a bunch of over-the-top blood and violence and craziness like most QT films offer are going to be disappointed up until the last 15 minutes or so. I really enjoyed the slow burn and all of the lead-up; it seemed like the first 2 hours flew by. Actually, I didn't care for the ending as much as many posters in this thread seem to have. The girl screaming and splashing all around in the pool was just a little much and too cheesy imo, but hey, it's Tarantino so it's to be expected. I also didn't care for the scene where Leo went to Italy and Kurt Russell was doing the voiceover. Other than that, solid film. I personally was more impressed by Leo's performance than Pitt's, although I can definitely understand why so many preferred Pitt.
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