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re: On forced social justice in movies
Posted on 12/17/17 at 4:57 pm to pvilleguru
Posted on 12/17/17 at 4:57 pm to pvilleguru
Ok, we must not have watched the same movie.
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 4:59 pm to NIH
Like I said, yall are paying too much attention to genders.
And I think they made it pretty clear that Poe is going to be one of the highest ranking members in the next movie.
And I think they made it pretty clear that Poe is going to be one of the highest ranking members in the next movie.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:01 pm to pvilleguru
quote:No. the people who made this movie did when they cast the film. They’ve said as much. They made it a point to make this a feminist propaganda film and they even advertised it as such. I’m not sure why you’re trying to deny it.
Like I said, yall are paying too much attention to genders.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:02 pm to pvilleguru
Then explain Rose to me?
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:05 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
There will be many more like him in the coming days, it'll be considered conservative hate speech to shite on this film
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:08 pm to OMLandshark
quote:What about her? Peon tech whiz. Thought she was too idealistic and let her feelings of her childhood take precedent over the resistance.
Then explain Rose to me?
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:08 pm to OMLandshark
quote:And the random purple haired spinster who shows up out of nowhere to lead the fleet on the space version of the OJ chase.
Then explain Rose to me?
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:09 pm to pvilleguru
quote:What was the purpose of her character?
Thought she was too idealistic and let her feelings of her childhood take precedent over the resistance.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:10 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Or Poe's biggest backer being a woman
Or Rose's sister who blew up the ship
Or Rose's sister who blew up the ship
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:10 pm to pvilleguru
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Like I said, yall are paying too much attention to genders.
How? We aren't the ones shoehorning in certain scenes to fulfill gender quotas. We're saying NO ONE should care about genders, but Rian Johnson obviously did. We've seen this shite play out already in movies before this one.
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And I think they made it pretty clear that Poe is going to be one of the highest ranking members in the next movie.
How can we know that? I never got that impression.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:11 pm to NIH
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There will be many more like him in the coming days, it'll be considered conservative hate speech to shite on this film
Its the same thing that was played out for the all-female 2016ghostbusters.
Anyone who criticizes the decision to force-feed female roles down our throats was automatically without question a "racist/sexist/misogynist/xenophobe".
This is the shield people use.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:12 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:The entire Rebellion fit into the Falcon. It's inevitable IMO.
How can we know that? I never got that impression.
Not sure why that's relevant though.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:13 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:Up to date on the latest tech, even if it was experimental. Seemed to be familiar with casino planet and the types of people that inhabited it. I wasn't a fan of her character, but she provided some depth of life for regular people under the First Order.
What was the purpose of her character?
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:15 pm to pvilleguru
That is such a shite explanation that I know even you don't buy it
"Depth"
Lol. Rich people are bad! What a novel theme
"Depth"
Lol. Rich people are bad! What a novel theme
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:15 pm to NIH
Movie would have been much better cutting that entire subplot out.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:16 pm to pvilleguru
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Up to date on the latest tech, even if it was experimental.
I dont recall her being portrayed as a big "techie" person, especially when you consider her entire presence on the screen was rooted in her find a hacker. Why not just make her the hacker?
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Seemed to be familiar with casino planet and the types of people that inhabited it.
Only familiar enough to give us the "white evil rich capitalists!" and animal cruelty story line, but not familiar enough to make a difference in finding the hacker to accomplish their task.
Then as it turns out the hacker shite never even mattered to begin with.
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I wasn't a fan of her character, but she provided some depth of life for regular people under the First Order.
As stated above, everything she said was about evil rich capitalists, and animal cruelty. She was the core of the politics involved in this movie.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:17 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
It had zero importance to the overall end game
It was a nice device for Rian to get more screen time for his diverse characters,though
It was a nice device for Rian to get more screen time for his diverse characters,though
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:19 pm to pvilleguru
quote:You are literally making shite up instead of just admitting what you know to be true.
Up to date on the latest tech, even if it was experimental. Seemed to be familiar with casino planet and the types of people that inhabited it. I wasn't a fan of her character, but she provided some depth of life for regular people under the First Order.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:19 pm to bamafan1001
Sure there may be an agenda, but the driving agenda is more Money rather than social content.
Think NFL, pink month, and safe rule changes.
NFL said "we have all the fans we can get with our current content, what changes can we implement to bring in new viewers".
Star Wars is the same with the new run of female heroes Jyn, Rey, Rose, Phasma, Holdo.etc.
They take for granted the following that kept the franchise running outside of 3 movies, just like the NFL takes for granted the people who watch weeks 1-17 religiously when deciding whom to market as the halftime show entertainment. I.e.do guys who watch all four quarters of their 2-12 team fall to 2-13.....really want to see Madonna, Bruno Mars, or Beyonce?
It's more the fault of male predictability/brand loyalty than it is agenda. The new group of unloyal hipster males are only like 10-15% of men. They will try a different beer every time, while most men will drink the same 1-3 brands without having to be marketed to to do so.
The core reason why everything is being tailored to women and non-loyal males is because that group now represents a majority of money spent.
Boys will still watch and want toys, single mothers will more likely take their daughters and sell them toys, & hipster males will sing its praises because women don't like "negativity"(everything is "amazing").
So as much as you people bitch and moan, this is what all you brand loyal males will do no matter what kind of frick up happens to your brand:
Example:
Pepsi Clear
New Coke
McLean
Budweiser retro can
NFL pink month, female ref, female coach, female kicker
Episode IX: Waring with the STARS!
Think NFL, pink month, and safe rule changes.
NFL said "we have all the fans we can get with our current content, what changes can we implement to bring in new viewers".
Star Wars is the same with the new run of female heroes Jyn, Rey, Rose, Phasma, Holdo.etc.
They take for granted the following that kept the franchise running outside of 3 movies, just like the NFL takes for granted the people who watch weeks 1-17 religiously when deciding whom to market as the halftime show entertainment. I.e.do guys who watch all four quarters of their 2-12 team fall to 2-13.....really want to see Madonna, Bruno Mars, or Beyonce?
It's more the fault of male predictability/brand loyalty than it is agenda. The new group of unloyal hipster males are only like 10-15% of men. They will try a different beer every time, while most men will drink the same 1-3 brands without having to be marketed to to do so.
The core reason why everything is being tailored to women and non-loyal males is because that group now represents a majority of money spent.
Boys will still watch and want toys, single mothers will more likely take their daughters and sell them toys, & hipster males will sing its praises because women don't like "negativity"(everything is "amazing").
So as much as you people bitch and moan, this is what all you brand loyal males will do no matter what kind of frick up happens to your brand:
Example:
Pepsi Clear
New Coke
McLean
Budweiser retro can
NFL pink month, female ref, female coach, female kicker
Episode IX: Waring with the STARS!
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:19 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:There's like 20 people left and it looks like he learned the lesson that Leia was trying to teach him in the first 30 minutes of the movie (look at the big picture, don't sacrifice half your fleet for a small victory, become an actual leader). He called off the race to the big gun, realized Luke's plan was to give them time to escape, led the group to the escape route, Leia deferred some of the decisions to him at the end, etc.
How can we know that? I never got that impression.
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