re: Old TV Shows Are Beating Hollywood’s Billion Dollar DEI Machine

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Madame Web”, a recent effort to launch a Spider Man movie franchise without Spider Man, performed even worse for Sony.

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Sony is praying for a breakout character from the entirety of the Spider Man cast of characters in addition to Spidey. It hasn’t worked so far, mainly between a mix of poor character choices and shitty writing.



Venom kinda worked but not, as that character’s heyday came and went. And his arch-nemesis Carnage doesn’t lend himself to a PG 13 series.


Morbius? I haven’t even watched it but this screamed “bad idea” because if someone wanted to watch a Marvel based vampire film, they’d watch Blade instead. The character being corny as hell in the 1990s Spidey cartoon did not help due to broadcast standards. (Instead of drinking blood and killing people, he needed “plasma” which just weakened his victims instead. So you have footage of him whining “I need plasma…”)


Madame Web? Not a great character to begin with and honestly would need all the Spider-Woman offshoots to show up in a Spidey film first to be introduced just to stir interest.

The original Madame Web was basically a plot device in the 80s comics and 90s cartoon, not a character. The Julia Carpenter version of Spider-Woman got some play in the 80s and 90s but isn’t really remembered because the 70s version, Jessica Drew, made a comeback in the 2000s. Etc.



Trying to make a movie about interesting Spidey supporting characters tends to fail for the same reason that Jason Alexander and Michael Richards failed on TV after Seinfeld… The interesting quirky sidekick is worth attention but if you don’t have the main character serving as the heart of the show, it doesn’t work.

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The weirdest part though is that they know they are wrong, they just keep up the charade in some sideways bullshite way of doing "the right thing" or whatever. They can't take a step back and be honest about any of it. All they do is sit back and scream at normal people for being "___phobic" all while ignoring their true intentions for making shite like this in the first place

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This is the result of DEI hiring: women.

Women will NOT admit being wrong, always someone/something else is to blame. They will make up a lie and look people straight in the eyes as they knowingly repeat the lie to avoid admitting mistakes or even simple accidents. Add to that the fiery cultural minorities (ones that don’t utilize self restraint or value self discipline) and it’s a simple recipe for disaster that many corporations are following not just Disney (being a media company just makes them the poster child for this crap).

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Deconstructing the old material entirely has its own problems, which is why The Last Jedi is divisive as hell since it not only did this but did it in the middle of a trilogy and derailed all plans for it.

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This is a good point, as that was a white man who did it.

I think part of the issue is that when you focus on EXCESSIVE diversity is that you lose a LOT of experience. They're not bringing in young diversity to LEARN from the old guard, they're dumping the old guard and bringing in people based purely on demographics without an eye for experience.

I cannot imagine this working anywhere else where skills are needed. Imagine if you only hired programmers, or doctors, based PURELY on population demographics instead of experience - AND at the same time purging the very people who could train this younger guard.

Feel you need to hire more minority doctors? Great!
Ignoring better qualified applicants to do so? Not so great!
Pushing out older, experienced doctors to make room for inexperienced ones? Even less great!


Even if you weren't doing demographic hires - the idea that you can replace everyone with experience with young, inexperienced people is a recipe for disaster.

I've seen plenty of companies suddenly need to outsource their programming needs to the contractors made up of the same people they fired to save money by hiring new people.

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Deconstruction has been a thing for years and some studios and actors intentionally passed on projects as a result.

The most infamous one in film has to be Airplane, which took the 70s “Airport” disaster series and lampooned the shite out of it, which made for a classic film but killed the ability to take any Airport film seriously after that.

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Sure, though that's a very different kind of "deconstruction". The "Scary Movie" franchise might have "deconstructed" Scream and other horror movies, but it didn't ruin them - and it was still its own movie. A better example would have been if Airplane! had been marketed as a specific sequel to Airport.

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The problem is Hollywood churning out stupid bullshite that only caters to an exceptionally small portion of the country, all while pretending that the masses are clamoring for it. They pretend that a-hole women playing superheroes or DEI/LGBT characters pretending to be normal and cool is what normal people want to watch and consume across platforms.

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It's all about molding society into their liberal progressive image.
They know most people don't want their woke programming, but they are determined to persist even while losing money because it's all about brainwashing society. They can afford to lose money in these endeavors because they are bankrolled by big money liberals who are pulling the strings.

I’ve been watching Northern Exposure and it’s been so enjoyable. They’ve brought Trump (Just a business man in NY) up several times in a positive way. There are several conservative characters that aren’t demonized. It was a different time.

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There’s also some psychology behind people watching old shows that their brain is familiar with instead of consuming new content that they have to give more of their attention to.

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Partially true (human nature, comfort with familiarly).

However, there is a monumental quality gap AND no small elephant in the room. "Modern" Hollywood productions REQUIRES a large % of DEI / DIE in "New" Hollywood production staff, stars, and co-stars be chosen based NOT on what they bring to a show, a script, charisma but based solely on IDENTITY.

Current coercive DEI policies, insulting scripts and preachy messages are suicidal. They all but ensure all art creatively and quality will be compromised while snuffing the life out of the very spirit of the art, artists and viewers/patrons.

I'm rejecting 99% of the trash on principle alone.

But how will I know if a show is any good if it doesnt complete the DEI checklist???

Those damn leftists and their round Earth

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openly espouses the “story wheel”, which is based on the Joseph Campbell “epic hero” story arc.

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JC is the seminal source when it comes to the philosophy of creating a story