re: OFFICIAL "The Wire" M/TV Board rewatch thread (current discussion starts ~p. 53)

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with one group

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True, the group with no regard for the code or old school.

Even if it hasn't fully passed them by yet, the signs are there.

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they haven't fallen off, though

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sure they have, they are really low on quality muscle and are only making money because Stringer went along with Prop Joe's plan and got some good product.

Right, that's what Stringer was working towards, a business, not gangsta's, but they only got there because he went behind Avon's back and Prop Joe made the initial offer because they (B&B) had the best territory at the time (the towers) but shitty product. And thru the legit businesses. Basically they won, they are out (or should be) but Avon won't let go cause he's a gangster at heart, just like Marlo but they can't fight like they used to, that's what i meant. I agree they don't/shouldn't have to.

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His wife (also a smoke show)

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much hotter than dagastino. i mean i get that marriage is boring so i'm not saying it's not realistic that tommy bangs other chicks, but she is such a milf. they make her character seem completely devoted, loving, caring, etc too

they did a good job of making hamsterdam look just like a scene from hell on earth

sydnor and prez talking about all the shite they did over months that is getting thrown in the trash was real

jimmie is a piece of shite

kima's life is melting down, but it's kind of forced. she's not working 7, 12s. she gets days off. mcnulty has plenty of time to do all sorts of shite for her personal life (and plenty of time to get drunk like they show kima). what the living frick is kima doing in her's?

I updated the OP earlier.

Man I never did get back to this thread last week. Here is my wall of comments on this week's and last week's episodes.

Straight and True

Chris Partlow reference!! Man, I love that dude.

Stringer beating all over McNulty and even offering him a condo in his legit-business high-rise. Awesome.

Carcetti seems like he's going straight about the murder witness/protection.

Holy shite, Cutty straight up smacked that hoe. Damn.

String trying to run the drug game like a business is hilarious. shite is like a Board of Directors, and ole boy is even taking minutes.

Avon is free. BOOM. fricking 26 months. Smooth (and smooth work by Levy too).

"Well you shouldn't sell drugs.."
Stringer thinking Bodie is wired. Hahaa.

Chris motherfricking Partlow!

Jimmy at that open house was awesome.

String telling marlo that he's smart but there's more to it than that. String is one of the smartest dudes on the show, but there is just something missing sometimes with him.

Clay Davis partying with Avon and Levy just seems REALLY awkward.

String talking about back in the day with Avon. String was talking about owning two grocery stores, and Avon was hunting down an AK-47 so he could go kill Warren. They both had their own, different mindsets even that far back in the day.

That's one hell of a homecoming for Avon...baller condo and an interracial threesome?


Homecoming

Avon struggling to fit in. Just like my man Cutty. Interesting.

Is that the first Clay Davis onscreen "Sheeeeeeiiiiiit" we've gotten?

Avon pissed about losing corners, but it's not about that anymore....but he can't let go.

Marla wants that Cedric dick, but he got himself a white woman now. He ain't interested, lady.

"Just a gangsta, I suppose."
String schooling Avon on where they are now, and he's stuck in that mindset. It's crazy how different of goals they each have. String wants to evolve and get out and Avon is stuck in the street.

I love how Bunny does all this shite to set up Hamsterdam and he still has someone bitching to him about getting that shite off their porch.

Marlo: "I don't want it to stop."
Beasting.

Snoop sighting.



Bunk flexing up on Omar in his face was AWESOME. That was a cool scene though. Halfway through the show and I think my favorite part is still when the cops and players talk with each other.

Cutty is done. My man Slim Charles was taking the rap for it, but Curry stepped up and admitted he let him go. Now we get to see him box and frick Spyder's mom. Hahaa.

And Avon knows what's up and respects him for it. "He a man today."

McNulty fighting to get the case back on Stringer. Come on, Jimmy...damn.

Back Burners

Jimmy went behind Daniels's back and he is PISSED. Good for him.

Man, Stringer gets violent sometimes. Donette pissed him off. And a couple weeks age he damn near strangled Poot.

Ole Kima making that full McNulty transition. God, she fricking sucks.

"That bitch wasn't worth more than a pinky."
I fricking love Butchie. Also: "Conscious do cost." That's some deep shite right there.

Hamsterdam is turning into Hell. Damn. Even Bubbz is scared of it.

Jimmy pimping on ole girl d'Agustino and getting Prez to get her information and making the phone call to see where she was. That was awesome.

frick SNOOP.

Carcetti still making moves, and still on the witness protection thing. Is he starting to turn good (or at least less greasy)??

It's so weird and awkward with the team and Herc/Carv now. And I love how none of them had any idea that Avon was out of prison already. Do none of these departments talk with each other? Seems like that would be something that would've made the rounds and gotten back to the crew. That was a pretty big deal.

And that has to suck as a cop to be part of that detail only to have Avon back on the streets in just over two years. Especially for someone like Prez and Sydnor. Wasn't it Sydnor who said "This is the best thing I've ever done" in season one? That has to burn that he's already out.



Moral Midgetry

Clay Davis trying to school String. I love how a crooked arse politician is trying to school a drug kingpin.

frick YOU, KALECHI. And your stupid arse New Iberia haircut.

Herc and those kids with the make-a-face witness thing. Hilarious.

Jimmy talking to that white cop married to that black chick cop was awesome. "You should meet my partner; I think you'd like her."

Jimmy going fricking H.A.R.D. on Brianna about Dee. Holy shite. "You were the one that talked him into taking the years anyway...," "I went to somebody that cared about him.." Damn.

Marlo looking to hit it and quit it. And he already suspects something is up with ole girl.

String sees that Clay Davis is full of shite, and he's ready to play ball. Clay Davis is a ballsy motherfricker to be trying to play someone like Stringer Bell like that. And I love how Stringer is prolly more illegal now that he's gone straight than he was in the drug game.

Marlo beasting on Avon and his boys. Dude is so smart. And of course my boy Chris Partlow rolls up on them and shoves some shotgun into their window. I love how ruthless Partlow is.

"I bleed red, you bleed green."
Uh oh...shite is about to go down. Avon talking shite to String, then String spills the beans and drops the De'Angelo bomb on Avon and talks shite back. Then they fight. That's a pretty awesome scene. They both get a little out of pocket, and they're both right about the other one. Avon has to know that String made the right call on Dee...he HAS to. Man that was intense, and awesome.

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String trying to run the drug game like a business is hilarious. shite is like a Board of Directors, and ole boy is even taking minutes

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"Are you taking notes on a criminal fricking conspiracy?"

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String telling marlo that he's smart but there's more to it than that. String is one of the smartest dudes on the show, but there is just something missing sometimes with him.

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one thing is he's not as smart as he thinks or wishes he was. The way he tries to take the stuff he learned in class last night almost too literally. The WorldCom branding, selling phone stocks short because of market saturation etc. Its new stuff to him and the world he's in. He's in it to get out and be a businessman. What he's missing is that guys like Avon and Marlo are in it for the "glory". Like Marlo said when Vinson was warning him about going to war and the guys that wore the crown ended up dead of in jail "at least they wore it (the crown) though".

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That is the reality that the absolute drug libertarians (a political position with which I flirt, from time to time, just to be fair) don't want to admit happens when you just let people do whatever they want, whenever they want

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I was thinking about this myself and full disclosure I've long flirted with/held this position on legalizing (weed should for sure be legalized) and the toughest question is always does the effect the harder drugs have on the user make it too dangerous to fully legalize?

I assume the park in Zurich was the model for this and the problem in both cases is that while the cops "tolerated" it and moved all the dealers and hence addicts to one central location, it still wasn't legal. So you have no or limited medical care or other infrastructure available. Legalizing would not be a panacea and of course there are always unintended consequences, but to me the big question and the once Bunny is asking is, is it better than the alternative current policies? You still have a lot of these same problems, it is just spread out more.

I think Slim Charles might be my favorite character.

Love that guy.