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re: OFFICIAL "The Wire" M/TV Board rewatch thread (current discussion starts ~p. 53)
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:08 am to STLhog
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:08 am to STLhog
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And how they call her hat a crown lmao.
That's an actual thing, though.
A short "blackthen.com" article about the history of the African American Church Crown
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:09 am to CocomoLSU
Reformation:
The Marlo Avon war rages on and the cops start busting dealers all over town, much to the chagrin of the New Day Co-Op and Prop Joe, who threatens to cut B&B off the good supply.
Stringer meets with Avon to try and talk him into ending the war with Marlo. Stringer asks what they got in the game for? Stringer's way of going legit is the much better option despite getting shafted by Clay Davis. I also figure Avon's time inside hardened his view. He ran the prison like a boss. inside there is only 1 way to run do it and outside he can't seem to adjust.
When Avon learns Marlo killed Devonne, he ask's if they still want a truce. This season aired in 2004 and was in part a critique of the Iraq war. I took that line as a comment that there's always some way to justify continuing the fight.
Bunny talks to Carver about policing, walking a beat, knowing the neighborhood and how the drug war has ruined that. If the libertarian's sometimes overlook the potential problems of legalizing as mentioned in last week's discussion, then this has been over-looked by the drug warriors.
Bunny also comes clean at Comstat. Rawls and Burrell are livid. Bunny is willing to fall on the sword, but threatens Burrell to not take it out on his people. Probably not a good move. Burrell tells the mayor, who is also blown away, but does seem impressed with the 14% drop in crime. The mayor's guy basically tells Burrell he's done.
Brother Mazone is back, love the scenes with Lamar going to the gay bars, plus we see Rawls in there, not surprised
The Marlo Avon war rages on and the cops start busting dealers all over town, much to the chagrin of the New Day Co-Op and Prop Joe, who threatens to cut B&B off the good supply.
Stringer meets with Avon to try and talk him into ending the war with Marlo. Stringer asks what they got in the game for? Stringer's way of going legit is the much better option despite getting shafted by Clay Davis. I also figure Avon's time inside hardened his view. He ran the prison like a boss. inside there is only 1 way to run do it and outside he can't seem to adjust.
When Avon learns Marlo killed Devonne, he ask's if they still want a truce. This season aired in 2004 and was in part a critique of the Iraq war. I took that line as a comment that there's always some way to justify continuing the fight.
Bunny talks to Carver about policing, walking a beat, knowing the neighborhood and how the drug war has ruined that. If the libertarian's sometimes overlook the potential problems of legalizing as mentioned in last week's discussion, then this has been over-looked by the drug warriors.
Bunny also comes clean at Comstat. Rawls and Burrell are livid. Bunny is willing to fall on the sword, but threatens Burrell to not take it out on his people. Probably not a good move. Burrell tells the mayor, who is also blown away, but does seem impressed with the 14% drop in crime. The mayor's guy basically tells Burrell he's done.
Brother Mazone is back, love the scenes with Lamar going to the gay bars, plus we see Rawls in there, not surprised
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:13 am to Ace Midnight
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That's an actual thing, though.
Im sure it is. Just nothing I've ever been exposed to.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:15 am to STLhog
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Slim's line about Omar's gma is one of my favorites in the entire series.
Slim is the coolest, smoothest bro on the Wire. And he always be dropping knowledge. Love that dude
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:57 am to H-Town Tiger
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Brother Mazone is back, love the scenes with Lamar going to the gay bars, plus we see Rawls in there, not surprised
And they never touched on Rawls playing for the wrong team again. Guess they were implying he was or they made good drinks lol.
Avon was being short sighted. String had them making money on top of money and had legit businesses. Devonne was killed because of Avon not letting Marlo have those few corners. No muscle or product. Now String did handle to Brother Mouzone thing wrong and Clay got him good. But that was small change to what they were bringing in.
Prez got some bad luck in the streets. But he was great in the office. Carver and his crew are terrible police.
I dont even think what Bunny did was a bad thing, he did get crime to drop. And its not like these crews gonna stop selling. But he about to pay the price.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:38 pm to H-Town Tiger
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If the libertarian's sometimes overlook the potential problems of legalizing as mentioned in last week's discussion, then this has been over-looked by the drug warriors.
Despite Simon's decidedly liberal leanings, the show does a remarkable job of showing all the sides. Maybe Burns was somewhat more conservative.
But, regardless, Simon's journalistic neutral stance generally held up through the show's run.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:46 pm to LUS Tiger in FL
quote:They always do.
But he about to pay the price.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:48 pm to Ace Midnight
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Despite Simon's decidedly liberal leanings, the show does a remarkable job of showing all the sides
I 100% agree, that is part of what makes it such a great show. Frankly, I can't think of another liberal that portrayed the government from all sides the wy he does. Yeah, many will bash the police, but rarely have we seen the in-depth portrayal of the bureaucracy.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:05 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Jimmy leaves his kids at home to go frick Terri , yep what a jack arse.
Yeah, that was awesome. He's such a terrible person.
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The Sunday Truce is kind of funny.
"On a Sunday morning??"
I absolutely love how many times that was said during the episode. And by several different people. Also loved how offended everybody seemed to be by that. Even Avon, who wants Omar dead more than most.
And it cracked me up they kept talking about her hat as a "crown."
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So Prezbo and Jimmy go out for Chinese and hear a call and Prez winds up shooting and killing an undercover cop.
That was rough. I had forgotten all about Prez shooting that undercover. And on top of that, people are calling him racist. And on top of THAT, Landsman and others are making fun of him for being a slapdick, when Jimmy and company know how truly good police he really is. Man, that was hard to watch for Prez. Especially when he says to tell Lester that he's sorry.
So Stringer gave Clay Davis 250 large? Holy shite. And Clay Davis is still fricking around. "I'm on it, Straaang." Yeah, you better fricking be on it. I'd be pissed too if I was String.
Carv moving bodies to cover up Hamsterdam? Damn. And he's about to get busted for it? DAMN. Ole Bunny jumps in to take the bullet though. Not surprising. And Herc is finally tired of the bullshite? Get the frick out of here, Herc. He's such a fricking a-hole.
And ole boy got shot for laughing at somebody's shoes. Yikes.
We talked about this last week, but we see that Avon does cover for Stringer with Brianna. He has to know that was the right play.
I still have to watch the other episode from this past week. Hope to do that tonight. Hard to believe we're already done with S3 this week. This shite is flying by.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:40 pm to CocomoLSU
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So Stringer gave Clay Davis 250 large? Holy shite. And Clay Davis is still fricking around. "I'm on it, Straaang." Yeah, you better fricking be on it. I'd be pissed too if I was String.
ole Clay is playing a dangerous game. He has to know who these guys are and if he thinks they can't touch him like some corner schmo, but man, what if they get busted and turn on him? He has to know the FBI LOVES to nail corrupt politicians.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:50 pm to H-Town Tiger
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ole Clay is playing a dangerous game.
Very.
Dude is busting balls on some serious drug game players. And while he knows that Stringer is trying to go legit, he damn sure knows who his partner is and that he kills people without a second thought. Not to mention the whole corruptness angle like you mentioned.
Dude is balking with a bonafied drug kingpin, and on top of that is basically stealing money from him. And then on top of that he takes a quarter of a mill from him and STILL doesn't get the man what he wants.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
I guess the only thing he really has over Straaaang is that CD knows he's trying to be a legit businessman. So he knows that he can string him along (no pun intended) and not face dire consequences so much. Also since Strang is in the business game now, CD can chalk a lot of it up to "all in da bizness game, Strang" and since Stringer doesn't really know much about how things work, he'll accept it for the most part. But 250K is 250K.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:57 pm to CocomoLSU
yeah, milking these dudes out of 5k here and there is one thing but 250 large is not fricking around
One other thing, with Bubbles helping more on the stings, getting Bodie to make a call by buying in bulk and then getting Squeak to buy phones. Does no one figure out he might be helping 5-O? Besides Omar of course, who called it back in season one.
One other thing, with Bubbles helping more on the stings, getting Bodie to make a call by buying in bulk and then getting Squeak to buy phones. Does no one figure out he might be helping 5-O? Besides Omar of course, who called it back in season one.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:58 pm to CocomoLSU
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Dude is balking with a bonafide drug kingpin
Clay is the biggest gangster of all. He knows what String does, remember his driver got busted in S1 with that money.
I never understood why String never involved Levy. He has him on retainer
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
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One other thing, with Bubbles helping more on the stings, getting Bodie to make a call by buying in bulk and then getting Squeak to buy phones. Does no one figure out he might be helping 5-O? Besides Omar you called it back in season one.
Yeah, I guess the low level dudes just see him as an addict/customer, and don't care enough to pay him any mind. But Omar sees it clear as day, I guess, because Omar is one of the ones who watches things. He observes, and he's smart. I bet if Avon or Stringer were around the corners, they may be suspicious of someone like Bubbz, but because they're so far removed from that scene, nobody around there really has the smarts to notice it outside of Bodie...and he basically just doens't pay Bubbz any attention or even a second thought.
But it does make you wonder that if Omar can see it so easily, how come NOBODY ELSE can/does. But again, I'm not sure anybody else pays as much attention as Omar. For someone who doesn't have many friends in the streets, Omar sure as hell does seem to always have a ton of information about everything/everybody.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:21 pm to LUS Tiger in FL
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Clay is the biggest gangster of all. He knows what String does, remember his driver got busted in S1 with that money.
Oh I know he does. That's my point...dude knows what B&B are all about, and he still has the balls to frick around with them and their money. That's ballsy as frick.
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I never understood why String never involved Levy. He has him on retainer
Good point. Levy could almost certainly navigate most of that bullshite paperwork. Or shite, maybe he knows Levy is so sideways that it's best to keep him separate from their legitimate business dealings.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:34 pm to CocomoLSU
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I never understood why String never involved Levy. He has him on retainer
Good point. Levy could almost certainly navigate most of that bullshite paperwork
i was going to mention that, but spoilers
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But it does make you wonder that if Omar can see it so easily, how come NOBODY ELSE can/does. But again, I'm not sure anybody else pays as much attention as Omar. For someone who doesn't have many friends in the streets, Omar sure as hell does seem to always have a ton of information about everything/everybody
i guess the nature of Omar's "occupation" means he needs to be good at laying low and surveillance. A little odd that he doesn't know B&B are set up at the Funeral parlor, though Butchie knows. He's also gets real close without being spotted, sorta like the cops
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:33 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I never understood why String never involved Levy. He has him on retainer
Good point. Levy could almost certainly navigate most of that bullshite paperwork
i was going to mention that, but spoilers
I thought that was the end of 10 but I also watched 11 today so could have screwed up. Levy is shady as hell, but I think he is scared of B&B. Clay just dont give a frick. Must have grew up in the hood lol
Whats funny is Bubz wouldnt snitch on Omar, Omar had him rustled. I think Omar gets most of his info from Butchie and Butchie didnt tell him for the reason he stated
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:56 pm to LUS Tiger in FL
These last four episodes are maybe my favorite of the show. So much good drama happening.
Clay Davis is a BMFer. He screws with big drug dealers and don't care.
Rawls at the gay bar was something I didn't catch first time. A big WTF moment in the show.
Clay Davis is a BMFer. He screws with big drug dealers and don't care.
Rawls at the gay bar was something I didn't catch first time. A big WTF moment in the show.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:52 am to Nodust
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Rawls at the gay bar was something I didn't catch first time. A big WTF moment in the show.
And that's pretty much the only reference to it.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 11:11 am to Wally Sparks
that whole scheme was too fake for someone to fall for.
why should they trust lester knowing bubbles is a snitch
why should they trust lester knowing bubbles is a snitch
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