re: Official The Walking Dead S07E15 "Something They Need" Thread

People are complaining about the writers and producers. What I said on the first page (making it 20 seasons) shows that these people are intentionally stretching this show as much as possible. This show could be so much better. That's what's frustrating.

Did you not see the shipwreck on the shore?

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Negan's guys always travel in groups. I t seems like once ready, once a group goes to, say, Alexandria, bum rush that group. When they don't return on time, another group gets sent out, have a plan to overtake that group. And maybe at that point, the numbers are well in your favor for the big battle at the main outpost for the Saviors.

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Splitting them up and taking them down seems like the best plan of action. Alexandria is not a good spot for the battle though. It was built for protection from the dead, but it is horribly designed to defend against people. It is ringed with tall trees with hundreds of sight lines within. There are no turrets or gun holes and only a few towers with views outside. Those towers are almost completely exposed. The people are basically trapped inside concrete walls with no way to escape. An enemy can just lob in dozens of grenades with no fear of being fired upon.

The best plan would be to draw them in and then attack. Either that or attack the convoys out on the road. Not sure they can pinpoint when/where they are going to be. There is no way most will survive. The way it is set up, there should only be a few walking away (like the prison)..

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They didn't go with Rick


You really think they wont be in the fight?

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If they are then it's more stupidity from the show. They leave without them. That's what we saw. If you have been doing nothing but recruiting people for your cause for the last what 3-4 episodes, and now you find a heavily armed group of women who are ready to exact revenge on the same group you are going to attack, wouldn't you be leaving with as many of them that you possible could?

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there is a reason why Firefly couldn't last a full season.

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There was a reason, but it wasn't because the Walking Dead is higher quality.

When we talk about "numbers" for Negan, I thought about what we've seen so far.

Rick and crew took out one outpost. They are all dead.

There really doesn't look like there's too awful many people at Negan's compound. Everyone is there when he burns faces etc in that big building, but there's not all that many people. It looks about the same as the number that was present at the into of Negan when heads got bashed in. That was a big group of Negan's people, but not more than 100.

You don't need a ton of people to take out the Saviors. Cut the head off and most of the stragglers from his team probably want to see Negan dead too. You just have to be strategic and take them out a bit at a time. It starts with killing Negan and his main posse he travels with. The rest will shite themselves with no leadership.

unless Gregory told Simon by the fence in that part we didn't hear it wasn't Gregory

simplest explanation of the little bird comment is that negan was fishing...he said he knew something, and rather than Sasha deny it, she suggested that there could be an accommodation. so, negan just confirmed that ASZ is planning an attack, and his little bird was Sasha

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unless Gregory told Simon by the fence in that part we didn't hear it wasn't Gregory

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We've seen plenty of times on this show where people said/did things that weren't revealed until later.

Not that anyone is intersted but I posted next weeks synopsis on the spoiler thread at the bottom of the M/TV page

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I think Negan has his people monitoring Alexandria. They've probably seen lots of them coming and going frequently and for long periods of time. So I think Negan is just being suspicious given Rick and co.'s background.

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If this were the case and he was truly suspicious, it seems like he'd just have his gang make a quick trip to kill someone important to Rick to remind him that's a no no.