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re: Official Avengers: Endgame SPOILERS/Discussion/Reviews Thread
Posted on 5/3/19 at 5:55 pm to DJ3K
Posted on 5/3/19 at 5:55 pm to DJ3K
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The Gamora that died isn't back. Another one time traveled to the future, which doesn't break the chain of events for the current MCU universe.
Past Gamora didn't violate any soul stone rule bc her timeline didn't get there.
So why can't you do that for Black Widow but just make it 24 hours previous instead of 4 years?
Same scenario.
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 5:55 pm to DJ3K
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Past Gamora didn't violate any soul stone rule bc her timeline didn't get there.
How does last Gamora entering into the present not make a new timeline?
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:00 pm to theunknownknight
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How does last Gamora entering into the present not make a new timeline?
They handwaved that away by saying it doesn't work like Back to the Future since from their relative viewpoint, the events already happened and can't be reversed by changing the past. Killing baby Thanos doesn't change anything.
The problem is that leaves open a pretty big loophole since you can now grab Gamora from the past and drag her into the future and presumably could do the same with Black Widow.
It probably would have been better to explain it as the Soul Stone has now claimed Black Widow once she went back into the past and sacrificed herself and thus the stone released its claim on Gamora or some similar BS. It only needs or wants one soul or whatnot.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:06 pm to Walking the Earth
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The problem is that leaves open a pretty big loophole since you can now grab Gamora from the past and drag her into the future
That’s exactly what they did in the movie doggie
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:09 pm to theunknownknight
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How does last Gamora entering into the present not make a new timeline?
Her timeline is fricked way beyond missing her. Losing Thanos put a huge whole in that reality.
Her showing up in "the present" doesn't screw anything up for that timeline. That's a fresh timeline.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:13 pm to MF Doom
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That’s exactly what they did in the movie doggie
You had to go through the effort of removing the rest of the quote that provided context.
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The problem is that leaves open a pretty big loophole since you can now grab Gamora from the past and drag her into the future and presumably could do the same with Black Widow.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:27 pm to Walking the Earth
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So why can't you do that for Black Widow but just make it 24 hours previous instead of 4 years?
That would create a new timeline in which she wouldn’t be sacrificed, wouldn’t get the soul stone, and they would not be able to un-snap what Thanos did. Oh yeah and Thanos would still be brought back to that alt timeline to destroy those guys
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:34 pm to ashy larry
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That would create a new timeline in which she wouldn’t be sacrificed, wouldn’t get the soul stone, and they would not be able to un-snap what Thanos did
They very specifically said that wasn't the case.
Remember the "Why can't we just kill baby Thanos" argument? What happened has already happened and can't be changed.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:01 pm to Walking the Earth
They probably could go back in time and bring back a different Widow (or Tony), but then you fall into a philosophical/ethical dilemma of messing with an alternate timeline.
I think there’s not as much of a question/dilemma from the audience about past Gamorra because there’s not much left for her in that past timeline (the life she knows is gone, her father and sister are both dead) and she is now in a better world.
I think there’s not as much of a question/dilemma from the audience about past Gamorra because there’s not much left for her in that past timeline (the life she knows is gone, her father and sister are both dead) and she is now in a better world.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:25 pm to xenythx
All this talk of timelines is why I hate time travel stories except for Bill and Ted.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:00 pm to TheeRealCarolina
just got back
good with some really good. not nearly as good as IW
people around the theater were literally crying at stark dying
it was pretty epic when they all showed up, just wish cap was given a few more seconds individually approaching the hoarde
good with some really good. not nearly as good as IW
people around the theater were literally crying at stark dying
it was pretty epic when they all showed up, just wish cap was given a few more seconds individually approaching the hoarde
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:02 pm to Walking the Earth
I guess morally that would be pretty fricked up to just take someone to a different reality.
It was a pretty clever way to bring Gamora back to life tho
It was a pretty clever way to bring Gamora back to life tho
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:16 pm to MF Doom
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Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
Hot take of the day: “Avengers: Endgame” is, at best, merely passable
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Disappointed. The first two hours is the most boring two hour stretch in the Marvel Series.
And they clipped the nuts of Thor and Hulk. Wtf
And they clipped the nuts of Thor and Hulk. Wtf
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:19 pm to kciDAtaE
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The first two hours is the most boring two hour stretch in the Marvel Series.
+1
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:34 pm to kciDAtaE
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And they clipped the nuts of Thor and Hulk. Wtf
the jumbled time travel was whatever (time travel always end up that way), but my biggest gripe was Thor
they spent 2 movies masterfully developing him, and then he's emo Thor again. sure, he had some funny moments but they fricked him up
i'm assuming they'll use this time travel frickery to build some new conflict and OP villains, esp for the cosmic stories
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they spent 2 movies masterfully developing him, and then he's emo Thor again. sure, he had some funny moments but they fricked him up
They’re clearly setting him up for Guardians 3 and a potential 4th solo movie, but I agree that his arc was my biggest gripe with the movie.
I was actually totally cool with him getting depressed and getting fat and drunk, because it was believable, but I don’t like him abandoning Asgard. Seems totally out of character for him, especially after Ragnarok gave him such a satisfying arc to the throne.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:47 pm to BranchDawg
He's not abandoning Asgard. He's acknowledging that they are better off under the person who had been running it for the last 5 years.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:50 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:It was fantastic on many levels,
Just got out Holy shite these guys stuck the landing. What an experience
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:57 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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He's not abandoning Asgard.
What do you call leaving in a spaceship with Chris Pratt, a raccoon and a tree?
I don’t mean abandoning as in leaving them without a role, I just mean he is personally abandoning them.
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