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re: Official Avengers: Endgame SPOILERS/Discussion/Reviews Thread
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:48 am to MF Doom
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:48 am to MF Doom
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There's now a timeline where Loki escapes in 2012 and a timeline where thanos doesn't exist after 2014
Here’s my question. When Tony and Steve go back to the 70’s to get the Tesseract doesn’t that negate Loki getting it during the events we saw in Endgame? Or is it part of the timeline now? I keep going back to the conversation between Hulk and the ancient one (I believe that was put in to explain away a lot of our questions). When they take the stones it does alter reality and splinter timelines but when Cap returns them to the exact time and place they took them it resets everything back to the MCU we know. That still leaves the issue of Cap staying in the 70’s. That would mean he was never an Avenger. My head hurts now.
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Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:51 am to slackster
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don't know. Similar thing happened in IW with the whole "she's not alone" part. I don't think it's outlandish that the women would gang up in a fight like this either.
Like a lot of us have said in this thread the scene in IW was done way better and felt organic. Probably because it was only 3 characters and not 15 or so that just happened to be in the same place at the same time during the battle to end all battles.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:52 am to BOSCEAUX
quote:I don't think so. Cap was still an Avenger. His past self still did all of those things. It's just that his future self was also there in the time.
That still leaves the issue of Cap staying in the 70’s. That would mean he was never an Avenger.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:53 am to WestCoastAg
If her husband was Souza from Agent Carter, he knew Steve Rogers was always in her heart but didn't care.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 9:54 am
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:58 am to CGSC Lobotomy
did sousa ever say that he was saved by steve during the war? i dont remember if he did or not but i do remember peggy in winter soldier said her husband was rescued by steve. i do know the show runners for agent carter said that her and sousa getting together was not a confirmation that they ended up getting married
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Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:59 am to MF Doom
Dude, that was fricking predictable. It was clearly Iron Man and Captain America’s swan song. I’ve been saying this shite since Infinity War was released. Go back and look at my posts from earlier. I’ve been pretty consistent on what I think was going to happen in Endgame. I never thought they’d kill Black Widow for instance.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:14 am to RedPants
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This exact thing is why I'm excited for the next phase.
Without Iron Man and Captain America anchoring the franchise, Marvel movie fatigue, and with more than likely forced diversity and women roles...I don’t think the next phase is going to do that well.
Of course by “not do that well” means they’ll only make a few billion and not lots of billions.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:18 am to LSUZombie
Two best shots in all of the Marvel Movies:
Cap getting Mjolnir and taking Thanos to task with it.
Cap being joined by the entire goddamn Marvel Hero Universe.
Two biggest eyerolls in all of Marvel:
The female fighters deciding to strike a fricking pose in the middle of the battle for Earth
Goddamn motherfricking Gwenyth Paltrow showing up to save Tony. God I fricking hate her.
Cap getting Mjolnir and taking Thanos to task with it.
Cap being joined by the entire goddamn Marvel Hero Universe.
Two biggest eyerolls in all of Marvel:
The female fighters deciding to strike a fricking pose in the middle of the battle for Earth
Goddamn motherfricking Gwenyth Paltrow showing up to save Tony. God I fricking hate her.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:19 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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The time travel is really really confusing but if you dissect there’s not as many plot holes as you would think at first. The really only big one is cap going back and staying but maybe he stayed in that timeline until his Peggy died then used his last Pymm tube thingy to shoot back to the current timeline and wait on that bench
As someone mentioned earlier, returning the stones brings it all back to the current timeline. Cap could have just stayed, lived his life, and knew to be on that bench down the road. He basically lived with two Caps, one who did all the heavy lifting and one who got to be with Peggy.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:25 am to TheeRealCarolina
Amazing movie. That last act was the perfect culmination of all that we have watched over the years and I personally feel like they wrapped it all up the best way possible.
The moment in the move that had me laughing so hard though was when they were assembling the gauntlet and things were really intense and Rocket goes "BOOM".
The moment in the move that had me laughing so hard though was when they were assembling the gauntlet and things were really intense and Rocket goes "BOOM".
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:27 am to slackster
How do they handle time travel now? If anybody dies in future movies call up Hulk to send somebody back to save them.
Time travel always brings these sort of questions and scenarios to light
Time travel always brings these sort of questions and scenarios to light
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:28 am to Bronson2017
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things were really intense and Rocket goes "BOOM".
I died laughing at this part.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:30 am to pvilleguru
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don't think so. Cap was still an Avenger. His past self still did all of those things. It's just that his future self was also there in the time.
Ok. I see what you are saying. So when it was all said and done the only anomaly we ended up with was two Steve Rogers. One that was still frozen in the 70’s and one that was kicking it with Peggy Carter. But shouldn’t we still have a young Cap in 2023? Unless at some point the two merged. Oh well time travel can cause these issues.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:33 am to hth52
I’ve heard there explanation as to why Thor doesn’t slice threw thanos but that still doesn’t make sense. If we look at power as a spectrum pre gauntlet thanos is still arguably at the top. Now add all infinity stones, which just 1 supposedly can make someone one of the strongest in the universe, even if thanos only knows how to harness half of that extra power, (which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense since most of inifity war he had 3 of them throughout) he should be way more powerful than anything’s no in existence.
But Thor with stormbreaker not only good his own with this supreme being but throws his axe at him and it literally sliced right through the power stones power.
Now 2 problems with thanks catching the axe in end game knowing what we know from above. 1. Is thanos worthy of stormbreaker?
doesn’t seem likely. Now 2. Is he strong enough just to catch it and stop it? If this is the case that means thanos in Base form has more power than a power stone! like why do you even need the stone then. You’ve got have a better explanation Than that
But Thor with stormbreaker not only good his own with this supreme being but throws his axe at him and it literally sliced right through the power stones power.
Now 2 problems with thanks catching the axe in end game knowing what we know from above. 1. Is thanos worthy of stormbreaker?
doesn’t seem likely. Now 2. Is he strong enough just to catch it and stop it? If this is the case that means thanos in Base form has more power than a power stone! like why do you even need the stone then. You’ve got have a better explanation Than that 
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:36 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Is thanos worthy of stormbreaker
Stormbreaker doesn't have Odin's enchantment on it.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:37 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
He’s God level without the stones I guess. He was able to hold the power stone in his bare hand and jaw jack Marvel out of the movie with zero ill effects.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:38 am to udtiger
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Is thanos worthy of stormbreaker
Stormbreaker doesn't have Odin's enchantment on it.
Excellent catch and point.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:40 am to BOSCEAUX
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Here’s my question. When Tony and Steve go back to the 70’s to get the Tesseract doesn’t that negate Loki getting it during the events we saw in Endgame? Or is it part of the timeline now? I keep going back to the conversation between Hulk and the ancient one (I believe that was put in to explain away a lot of our questions). When they take the stones it does alter reality and splinter timelines but when Cap returns them to the exact time and place they took them it resets everything back to the MCU we know. That still leaves the issue of Cap staying in the 70’s. That would mean he was never an Avenger. My head hurts now.
These are all separate realities. 2012 NYC, 2013 Asgard, 1970 NJ...the moment they arrive in these locations a new reality is spun off, because things are now occurring differently than they did in the main MCU timeline.
And Cap went back to the 50s at the end, not the 70s.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:41 am to BOSCEAUX
I also don’t understand how Steve Rogers is an old man he never aged the first go around and if you want to say well he was frozen, what about Bucky he’s the same way him being an 80 year old looking man makes no sense. Looking like he’s in his late 40s or 50s sure but not that
Only reason that even makes sense is because that cap lived from the 1940s to 2023 then went back to live with Peggy and lived all those years over again
he never aged the first go around and if you want to say well he was frozen, what about Bucky he’s the same way him being an 80 year old looking man makes no sense. Looking like he’s in his late 40s or 50s sure but not that Only reason that even makes sense is because that cap lived from the 1940s to 2023 then went back to live with Peggy and lived all those years over again
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:41 am to whatiknowsofar
Since Rudd joined the Avengers in Civil War some of my favorite lines are him man crushing on Cap. The America’s arse line will go down as one of the best comedic lines in the franchise. Rudd was such a good choice for that role.
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