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Posted on 7/23/12 at 12:03 am to
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 12:03 am to
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Without a doubt the best fight in the entire Batman franchise. It's of decent quality for those who want to see it again.


I like his fight at the begining of BB in the jail. His sword fight with Ras al Ghul on ice was also very good.

His fights with Bane were impressive, but he was getting wrecked so much that it can't really be considered a great fight scene. I think a great fight scene requires two opponents on equal footing, and Bane was largely toying with Batman in that scene.
Posted by la_birdman
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 12:07 am to
I saw it again today. You pick up a couple things you missed the first go round.


I agree with what the guy from last night was saying in this thread, at the end when he's flying the bomb out toward the bay, it does appear to look like he goes underwater, with the reflections in the cockpit.

My mom absolutely loved this movie! She teared up when Alfred's voice shook when he was leaving and certainly at the end.

She clapped at the part where Catwoman says, "Well, were both suckers, I guess." And kisses Batman.

I really, really liked the Avengers but this is better.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 12:09 am to
Never saw Avengers. Figured it's be some gimmicky super hero crap. I like Nolan's dark universe.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 12:11 am to
did anyone see it in IMAX, they flipped between imax footage and regular footage a couple of times and it took a little way from the experience. Your like man this is awesome oh now they just do it normal.

I think when they took the bomb on the back of the truck, it went from Imax footage to normal footage.

The entire first scene was shot in IMAX. the part where batman gets the crap beat out of him was all shot in IMAX. Those two scenes probably made the few extra bucks I paid for the ticket worth it.
Posted by HideChaKidz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 12:22 am to
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I really, really liked the Avengers but this is better.


I don't know how anyone would say otherwise.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 12:23 am to
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Figured it's be some gimmicky super hero crap.


Nah, it was very, very good.

But it was several super heros. Tons of action, funny moments but it didn't have the emotional moments this movie has (the parts with Alfred tearing up, wondering what's going to happen to Batman, etc).

Absolutely loved this movie.
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:57 am to
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Y'know, maybe part of my problem with TDKR was that I didn't get to watch it in a continuous manner. The theater I was at had a power blip from a storm, the movie stopped and the lights came on, and then resumed about 5 minutes later. Talk about losing the mood... especially after knowing about what happened in Colorado. That sudden, jarring stoppage coupled with a thunderclap and a WTF moment... pretty distracting.



I was in this showing as well. Perkins Rowe??? Yeh it was a total buzz kill. I was on an adrenaline rush & so caught up in the movie, then that happened. I didn't think I could regain that "rush". But I did. Just got back from seeing it again. The final act is amazing.
Posted by swagsurfin7
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 3:35 am to
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Did anyone else get chills when Bruce finally escaped from the pit? As Bruce starts climbing, the drums kick in. The camera starts rotating between the chanters, the doctor, and Bruce. Bruce keeps climbing, and the drums get louder, so we have both a visual and auditory crescendo. Once on the platform, the bats came out from a crack in the wall, and swirl around above him, at which point the drums really kick in. The bats were his primal fear years ago, and his ability to feel that fear and triumph over it was the symbolic birth of Batman. His main fear while he's standing on the platform, however, is falling and dying in the pit, and the presence of the bats symbolizes a rebirth of Batman as Bruce makes himself vulnerable and challenges fear once again.



I got chills on this part. When he made the jump & everyone started cheering was awesome. One of the best scenes in the trilogy IMO.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:07 am to
I love how much he tied in the entire trilogy together in this movie how he brought in aspects from all the movies. How the praise of harvey dent pretty much saved bane and many of his henchmen. Then later in the movie when the league of shadows was such a big part of the movie. How flash backs to the first movie started to mess with bruce waynes mind. It was so awesome that he did this.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162937 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:30 am to
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the train crashed because Gordon shot the supports with the Batmobile, and there ARE witnesses who see and comment on Gordon being the trigger man. "Nice ride, man" etc. Then, boom, down goes the train, plot thwarted, bye bye daddy.


holy frick....seriously? Yes, I'm sure the league questioned random homeless people about whether or not that was batman in there or not.

not sure what's worse you babbling on about this or unknownknight not shutting up about Nolan not giving us a shot of freeing the other prisoners. Who cares?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:36 am to
Okay, I haven't read this thread, only this page, but are there people who were disappointed in TDKR?

I'll start off by saying that I did like it. A lot. But I'm not honest if I say that I wasn't a little disappointed in it. There were so many things to like about it, so I'll discuss what I didn't.

First was Bane's voice. I was worried about that from the trailers, and there were time last night when I was struggling to understand what he was saying. That was fairly annoying.

I wasn't really a big fan of the plot, for different reasons. First off, Bane and his men basically blow out more than half of the city's undercarriage. I felt like buildings should've been falling and caving in (kinda like the football field). Assuming that he did that almost solely to trap the cops underground..I dunno, I just felt like there could've been a much more realistic and believable way of doing that. The only thing I can think of is that tehre were, what, 3,000 cops so that's a lot of people to trap. Also, Bane was trying to get the people of Gotham to take back their city..but what he really mainly meant was the prisoners and assholes of Gotham. That's why the main thing he did was break the prisoners out of the prison.

Also, with the plot, it just felt very similar to the previous two movies. In Begins, the Narrows are segregated by the bridges, and shite goes down and Batman (and others) have to save the day. Well, this was the same thing, just on a bigger scale (Gotham instead of just the Narrows). In Begins, the prisoners are released from Arkham and in this one they are released from the prison. In TDK Joker tries to get the people to cause chaos and do bad things to turn Gotham bad, and in this one Bane basically does the exact same thing. I dunno, I just felt like I was watching the same plots unfold from the previous two movies. And it prolly didn't help that I watched both yesterday before seeing the new one.

In the beginning of the film, Bruce is basically a cripple. Then he puts something on his knee and magically is kicking arse and jumping around. Then Bane hurts him (breaks his back..???), and he trains, IN PRISON, and all of a sudden a couple months later he's back into kick arse form again. I dunno, I just didn't really believe it..or at least found it really hard to.


NOTE: And to some of my points, spare me the whole "It's a movie.." argument. I know it's a movie and I know suspension of belief comes with that to a degree, but Nolan has kept things based pretty solidly in reality (the reality he created), and I felt like some of this movie kinda stepped beyond that.


ETA: As far as this trilogy, it's a great one and one of the best ever. And I did really like TDKR a lot. But after a marathon viewing of all three yesterday, I feel like it could be the weakest of the three, or maybe behind TDK at the very best.
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 7:38 am
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:55 am to
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Then he puts something on his knee and magically is kicking arse and jumping around

With the technology he has available, I don't find that too far-fetched. A mechanical brace that takes the pressure off his joints and provides extra power.. we have things like that currently in development for military.

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Then Bane hurts him (breaks his back..???), and he trains, IN PRISON, and all of a sudden a couple months later he's back into kick arse form again. I dunno, I just didn't really believe it..or at least found it really hard to.



Bane basically dislocated a disc, and didn't seem to actually "break" anything. Once the disc is back in place, recovery would be pretty quick, albeit very painful. BW has always been a tough son of a bitch.. I do agree the timeline was a little far-fetched, but I don't think it was a detriment to the movie.

Overall, I enjoyed the movie VERY, very much and don't see much to complain about. Anyone complaining about plot holes and crap is overexamining the shite out of this movie. Then again, this is a movie board so maybe it's to be expected. In any case, I'm recommending this movie to anyone and everyone I know and probably will see it again next weekend with another group of friends.
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 7:58 am
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21050 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:55 am to
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Nah, it was very, very good.


Good to hear. I want to see it, but I still need to see Captain America and The Incredible Hulk.

To be honest, I never liked comic books, so I don't think this would appeal to me like it does to most. I still think it would be entertaining and worth watching.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162937 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:56 am to
I haven't decided where I rank this one yet, I think it will get better on the 2nd viewing. Some here seem to be watching it with a pretty big critical eye simply to come back here to frick with the fan boys. Some of the complaints here are pretty stupid and petty.

I do agree with the stock market thing though. I mean one of the richest men in the world just happens to lose everything the day Bane and his men shoot the place up? Oh you MIGHT be able to prove fraud eventually? Come on.

I didn't think letting him live was a cop out, in fact I preferred it. I would have been more pissed had he never gotten the chance to live a normal life after doing everything he had done. He finally gets to live in peace away from Gotham.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:06 am to
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With the technology he has available, I don't find that too far-fetched. A mechanical brace that takes the pressure off his joints and provides extra power.. we have things like that currently in development for military.

I realize that, and I bought it. It was just another thing that I noticed about how broken down his body was and then magically it was completely fine.
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Bane basically dislocated a disc, and didn't seem to actually "break" anything. Once the disc is back in place, recovery would be pretty quick, albeit very painful. BW has always been a tough son of a bitch.. I do agree the timeline was a little far-fetched, but I don't think it was a detriment to the movie.

That would make more sense. And I'm assuming the timeline was a couple/few months because that's how long they said the bomb core would take to blow itself up (five months total I believe).
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Overall, I enjoyed the movie VERY, very much and don't see much to complain about. Anyone complaining about plot holes and crap is overexamining the shite out of this movie. Then again, this is a movie board so maybe it's to be expected. In any case, I'm recommending this movie to anyone and everyone I know and probably will see it again next weekend with another group of friends.

And like I said, I enjoyed it a lot as well, and would definitely recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it. But that doesn't mean that I can't be disappointed in some aspects of it.

And I do plan on seeing it again (in theaters, DVD, etc.), so I'm thinking that the second go round will be better.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:08 am to
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And like I said, I enjoyed it a lot as well, and would definitely recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it. But that doesn't mean that I can't be disappointed in some aspects of it.



Fair enough.
I can honestly say I wasn't really disappointed with anything from TDKR except for the pitiful manner in which Bane died. I really, REALLY wanted to see Batman beat him to death with his bare hands
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:09 am to
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I do agree with the stock market thing though. I mean one of the richest men in the world just happens to lose everything the day Bane and his men shoot the place up? Oh you MIGHT be able to prove fraud eventually? Come on.

Agreed on that as well...the whole stock market thing was something else I didn't care for. But I undeerstood why it was there, as the crutch for the plot to get Bruce broke.
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I didn't think letting him live was a cop out, in fact I preferred it. I would have been more pissed had he never gotten the chance to live a normal life after doing everything he had done. He finally gets to live in peace away from Gotham.

Yeah, that didn't bother me at all. And if nothing else, I liked it for Alfred, who deserved to get something happy.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156626 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:09 am to
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the pitiful manner in which Bane died

I didn't think he died, actually.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:11 am to
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I liked it for Alfred, who deserved to get something happy.

I'm not afraid to admit, seeing Alfred crying and apologizing at the Waynes' gravesite really got at me, I teared up a little.

eta

I was under the impression that the weapons on the bike were of high ordinance and bane should be dead
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 8:12 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156626 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:13 am to
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I was under the impression that the weapons on the bike were of high ordinance and bane should be dead

What I was saying was that when that happened, I didn't think that would be the end of Bane...I expected more of an "ending" to Bane. I do agree that he is likely dead (once the movie ended).
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