re: Obtuse Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice TD review thread (SPOILERS p5+)

Clearly America is not smart enough to understand this movie. Or at least that is what some people in this thread have said.

Marvel doesn't own the rights to its top 3 titles historically and yet they have crafted an amazing universe using primarily B/C level characters. Imagine if Marvel had the Fantastic Four (and more importantly Dr. Doom), Spider-Man & X-Men from the start.

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I'll be seeing it a couple of times a week for the rest of the Spring.

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I never knew you were into BDSM.

Also R rated vs pg 13.

frick the world.

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Why has Zack Snyder not been fired yet?

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Amazingly, Warner Bros. hasn't been following your posts.

So bvs should make over 800 million domestic? Your saying anything less is garbage and that a good one would make way more than 800 million because you said any(so we're going to assume average) batman/superman movie should beat deadpool by 200 million and deadpool made 600 million. Not only do you not respect how good of a movie deadpool was by saying this, you put any batman/superman movie on an almost unreachable pedestal. I mean who the hell would you be happy with directing these movies?

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So bvs should make over 800 million domestic? Your saying anything less is garbage and that a good one would make way more than 800 million because you said any(so we're going to assume average) batman/superman movie should beat deadpool by 200 million and deadpool made 600 million.

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First off, Deadpool has made $352 million domestic so far. It's now at $747 million worldwide. BvS is at $224 million domestic and $587 million worldwide.

Now for your overall question... For the amount of money it cost to market and make? HELL YES BvS should absolutely crush a movie like Deadpool when it comes to worldwide gross. Batman and Superman are two of the most recognizable and beloved characters in all of comics and are some of the few characters that were well known nation wide before the whole comic boom in film started. The fact that this will struggle to beat out a character that pretty much only Marvel comic readers have heard of is stunning.

Minus marketing Deadpool cost just $58 million while the most conservative estimates for BvS have it at $250 million and the highest reported estimate was $400 million plus.

Warner was expecting BvS to do Avengers/Dark Knight level business. They were banking on it hitting a minimum of $400 million domestic alone. They also expected it to hit $1 billion worldwide.

Now it's look like it might not even hit or will barely pass Man of Steel numbers both domestically and worldwide. This would be a MASSIVE disappointment for them. It's already having the ripple effects with Suicide Squad getting re-shoots to add more humor.

To put this in perspective, this is very much like what happened with Sony and the Amazing Spiderman movies. Sure, on its face, its odd to hear that two movies that both made over $700 million were considered financial failures but when you take into account that they took at least half a billion to make before advertising the multiplers you should get for a major event tent poll franchise just aren't there for the investors to be pleased. Heads are going to roll over this. I wouldn't be shocked to see Snyder given the sack here in the next few months.

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I wouldn't be shocked to see Snyder given the sack here in the next few months.

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If the drop offs continue to be in the 70% range this weekend, I'd be shocked if he had his job come Tuesday. They're making the Justice League and building sets, so time is of the essence here. They're not going to allow this shite to go on for months.

JL starts shooting in a week so I doubt Snyder would be removed this late in the game. I agree that it's time for him to go, but he may be allowed to stay for one more film. They've kind of backed themselves into a corner by rushing the JL film.

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JL starts shooting in a week so I doubt Snyder would be removed this late in the game. I agree that it's time for him to go, but he may be allowed to stay for one more film. They've kind of backed themselves into a corner by rushing the JL film.

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I would immediately shut down production for 6 months if I were in charge of the studio. That's why I'm saying time is of the essence. You can't allow him to shoot your "Avengers". I mean, frick it, you've already lost hundreds of millions because the film is a total abortion. The rewards if you get actual competent fans like Joss Whedon or JJ Abrams making these movies should be pretty apparent by now for them. He should fired within the hour if possible in order to salvage this. Snyder is cancer to DC and needs to be destroyed.