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re: *No Spoilers* House of the Dragon | S2E1 “A Son For a Son”
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:53 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:53 am to Bert Macklin FBI
You're right. Littlefinger was such a boy scout 
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:09 am to minimal
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You're right. Littlefinger was such a boy scout
I guess Idk if Littlefinger was less sinister than Larys or if he just had more tact. He did kill Liza Arryn but I feel like Larys kills the kid too and anyone else that had a claim to the Vale and usurps the seat.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:16 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Littlefinger indirectly started the war of five kings wouldn’t exactly says he’s less sinister 
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:33 am to dawgfan24348
A war was going to start whether he killed Jon Arryn or not as Jon Arryn would have exposed Joffrey’s parentage.
Would love it if GRRM gave some talented writers permission to do alternate history versions of Westeros. What if Jon Arryn didn’t die? What if Bobby B was killed at the Trident? What if Dany never set sail for Westeros? What if Ned hadn’t become Hand? Bunch of great what ifs in the story.
Would love it if GRRM gave some talented writers permission to do alternate history versions of Westeros. What if Jon Arryn didn’t die? What if Bobby B was killed at the Trident? What if Dany never set sail for Westeros? What if Ned hadn’t become Hand? Bunch of great what ifs in the story.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:34 am to dawgfan24348
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Littlefinger indirectly started the war of five kings wouldn’t exactly says he’s less sinister
Maybe less sinister was the wrong word. Littlefinger was definitely more tactful. It feels like Larys's solution to everything is to kill whoever is in the way and then make sure the person in power knows that they are complicit therefore strengthening his place next to them.
This post was edited on 6/17/24 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:35 am to Dairy Sanders
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Would love it if GRRM gave some talented writers permission to do alternate history versions of Westeros. What if Jon Arryn didn’t die? What if Bobby B was killed at the Trident? What if Dany never set sail for Westeros? What if Ned hadn’t become Hand? Bunch of great what ifs in the story.
I hope this doesn't happen. I think its hard enough to get the lore and stuff right the first time without adding what if scenarios to muddy the waters. Write the history "as it was".
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:10 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Larys was much more cold blooded.
Littlefinger had no lands or title so he was doing what he did to gain status. Then he got his lands and title. However, all the machinations caught up with him. He had a soft spot for Sansa and tried to do right by her at times.
Larys comes from a great House. His deformity made him inferior in that society and thus sparked his cruel streak.
Littlefinger had no lands or title so he was doing what he did to gain status. Then he got his lands and title. However, all the machinations caught up with him. He had a soft spot for Sansa and tried to do right by her at times.
Larys comes from a great House. His deformity made him inferior in that society and thus sparked his cruel streak.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:20 pm to prplhze2000
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He had a soft spot for Sansa and tried to do right by her at times.
ehhhh. Any 'positive' thing done for Sansa was for his own benefit as well.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:44 pm to Dairy Sanders
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Would love it if GRRM gave some talented writers permission to do alternate history versions of Westeros. What if Jon Arryn didn’t die? What if Bobby B was killed at the Trident? What if Dany never set sail for Westeros? What if Ned hadn’t become Hand? Bunch of great what ifs in the story.
The last three seasons of GoT were basically alternate history fan-fic already. And they suffered massively for it.
There is enough actual story in the universe to explore without having to do alternatives, IMO.
This post was edited on 6/17/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:26 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:Littlefinger wanted to start a war. Why else would he have sent an assassin to kill Bran with a Valyrian steel dagger that could be traced back to implicate the Lannisters
A war was going to start whether he killed Jon Arryn or not as Jon Arryn would have exposed Joffrey’s parentage.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:33 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Why else would he have sent an assassin to kill Bran with a Valyrian steel dagger that could be traced back to implicate the Lannisters
Do we know for certain that Littlefinger did this? Or that he wasn't working WITH the Lannisters?
Maybe its true and I forgot but I don't remember that act ever being proven to be him.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 3:47 pm to pbro62
Posted on 6/17/24 at 4:21 pm to Dairy Sanders
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war was going to start whether he killed Jon Arryn or not as Jon Arryn would have exposed Joffrey’s parentage.
Maybe but he sure as hell speed the timeline up. Although if Aryn doesn’t die then Ned never rides south to become Robert’s hand and it might become unlikely that Sansa and especially Arya ever go to KL. Meaning the Starks would likely never start a war with the Lanisters because Ned doesn’t get beheaded nor would he confront Cersei about her bastards.
Now we still likely see a war of sorts with Renly and Stannis both taking arms against the Crown but where the Starks fall is a bit of a question but more than likely with Stannis
Posted on 6/17/24 at 4:52 pm to Indefatigable
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The last three seasons of GoT were basically alternate history fan-fic already. And they suffered massively for it. There is enough actual story in the universe to explore without having to do alternatives, IMO.
I wouldn’t want it to be Live Action series or movies or anything like that. Doing in a novella form or if they want to tell them through television then do 30-minute animated versions like Marvel does with What If.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 4:54 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Littlefinger wanted to start a war. Why else would he have sent an assassin to kill Bran with a Valyrian steel dagger that could be traced back to implicate the Lannisters
And one was going to start anyways as soon as Jon Arryn discovered joffrey’s parentage. Little finger just used that as an opportunity to light his own fire and the dagger and assassination attempt were fuel for the fire.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 4:55 pm to dawgfan24348
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Maybe but he sure as hell speed the timeline up. Although if Aryn doesn’t die then Ned never rides south to become Robert’s hand and it might become unlikely that Sansa and especially Arya ever go to KL. Meaning the Starks would likely never start a war with the Lanisters because Ned doesn’t get beheaded nor would he confront Cersei about her bastards. Now we still likely see a war of sorts with Renly and Stannis both taking arms against the Crown but where the Starks fall is a bit of a question but more than likely with Stannis
All depends on what Jon Arryn does, who he tells, who finds out when.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 6:31 pm to Dairy Sanders
Jesus H Christ WTF did this thread turn into. Embarrassing.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:05 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Is Larys basically the first Master of Whisperers at this point? He has installed all of his own staff so he has spies everywhere now.
Is he trying to be the hand?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:25 am to skewbs
The entire thread is about GoT.
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