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re: Nic Cage's new movie "The Surfer" successfully confronts toxic masculinity

Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:21 am to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22105 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:21 am to
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successfully confronts toxic masculinity

Is the movie shitting on men, or are the critics just claiming he’s toxically masculine? There’s a difference
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25198 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:28 am to
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Haole shite…



yeah i even did a quick google knowing i was spelling it wrong but alas
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63334 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:45 am to
The trailer looks interesting, and the often violent, 'locals only' depiction is completely in line with anecdotes from every surfer I've ever known. As mentioned, especially in Hawaii.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
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Member since Apr 2024
7099 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:55 am to
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Is there such a thing as toxic femininity?


Yes. See the average liberal male for prime examples.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37783 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:55 am to
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The funnier thing is that you know this movie makes way more sense in Hawaii with their whole "kill howlie" culture but they would never highlight that.

Knew a guy that was a victim of that decades ago, murdered by local.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37783 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:00 pm to
It’s so odd and screwed up for critics to inject that thought into it.

From the trailer, it’s simply a-hole behavior, regardless of gender.
So is every movie depicting a physically aggressive antagonist now a “toxic masculinity” movie? Stupid leftist shite.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5874 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:08 pm to
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When has advertising some woke angle for a movie ever led to increased ticket sales?


If you go to the film's metacritic page, you will not see the phrase "toxic masculinity". The only place you'll see it is in RT's AI-generated Critics' Consensus. As for the actual reviews linked on RT, you have to comb through and cherry pick the handful that feature the phrase in the fratured blurb. Who knows how many of those full reviews actually use the phrase, and I'm sure several people here will have no problem lying about reading them.

This thread was created to spark outrage about a tiny indie film and the critics writing about it. Your outrage would be better directed at RT for trying hard to spoonfeed you a narrative only partially reflected in the content it's aggregating, on top of its stupid binary rating system.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63334 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:56 pm to
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Your outrage
What outrage?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:12 pm to
Even his vocabulary screams indoctrination
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38672 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:46 pm to
I’m in! They had me at Nic Cage unhinged.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Is there such a thing as toxic femininity?


They’re called conservative males.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14289 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:55 pm to
Any time a man¨ or group of men act like assholes, some morons will call it toxic masculinity. Doesn't mean the movie is trying to make that point.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 3:06 pm to
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They’re called conservative males.


Look at this bigot making fun of transgenders for a cheap joke at conservatives.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
55853 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:24 pm to
Ok, we are back from the theater.

First of all, it's weird af!

Second of all, we loved it!

Regarding the idea of "toxic masculinity," Nobody or nothing is preaching anything about T.M. in this film. It's not political and there's nothing "social justice-ish-y" in this film.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5874 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:18 am to
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Even his vocabulary screams indoctrination


Sorry, did I use too many words to debunk the nonsense premise of this thread?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74460 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 9:30 am to
I watched a lot of toxic in Saving Private Ryan.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83226 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 2:02 pm to
Good to hear. I’ll see it then.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13547 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:15 am to
There is nothing toxic about masculinity.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Member since Feb 2024
2496 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 11:39 am to
I watching it today.
I love it so far.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37835 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 12:52 pm to
It’s a pretty awesome movie. Julian McMahon, god rest his soul, is fricking terrific.
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