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re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:25 pm to Cole Beer
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:25 pm to Cole Beer
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Maybe I'm harsh too, but Brendan's mom wasn't exactly mom of the year even though she does seem to love him.
I would blame her for letting him sit with the police without counsel...of course his own fricking counsel FORCED him to do just that!
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Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:32 pm to Big Scrub TX
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of course his own fricking counsel FORCED him to do just that!
Yeah, what's his name, Len? I'm not a violent person, but he needs to be slapped around a bit just to make us feel a bit better.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:42 pm to Cole Beer
The one thing I will give Barb (Brendan's mother) big kudos for is doing everything in her limited power to get that a-hole Len Kachinsky fricking fired.
She KNEW that guy wasn't defending her kid and her making Brendan write the letter to the judge and complaining about him making Brendan talk to investigators without him got him dismissed.
I also think her constant berating reminders to Brendan to tell truth and say he really wasn't there were the only thing that kept Brendan from completely surrendering to the state's narrative and testifying against Steve Avery and probably taking some awful plea deal.
And don't get me stared on his "investigator", O'Kelley.
That motherfricker needs a beating. All that sobbing on the stand over the blue ribbon on Teresa's church made me want to bust through my TV to strangle him.
UGH - I'm getting angry all over again.
She KNEW that guy wasn't defending her kid and her making Brendan write the letter to the judge and complaining about him making Brendan talk to investigators without him got him dismissed.
I also think her constant berating reminders to Brendan to tell truth and say he really wasn't there were the only thing that kept Brendan from completely surrendering to the state's narrative and testifying against Steve Avery and probably taking some awful plea deal.
And don't get me stared on his "investigator", O'Kelley.
That motherfricker needs a beating. All that sobbing on the stand over the blue ribbon on Teresa's church made me want to bust through my TV to strangle him.
UGH - I'm getting angry all over again.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:50 pm to mikeboss550
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:51 pm to Cole Beer
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Hell, even if my 16 year old was very smart, I wouldn't let them talk to the police without myself as the parent present and/or with a lawyer present.
How is len even allowed to practice anymore with the gross incompetence he displayed? They interrogated brendan what, like 8 times without his lawyer or parent present. Disgraceful.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:52 pm to WG_Dawg
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How is len even allowed to practice anymore with the gross incompetence he displayed? They interrogated brendan what, like 8 times without his lawyer or parent present. Disgraceful.
And the case was taken up by the Northwestern folks...and the judge denied the motion. Talk about institutional inertia.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 4:50 pm to mikeboss550
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Anonymous will publish evidence to help the convict from Netflix’s Making a Murderer
After taking on the KKK and ISIS , hacktivist group Anonymous appears to have found a new mission: assisting Steven Avery , a Wisconsin native convicted of raping and murdering photographer Teresa Halbach on flimsy evidence. Some of the evidence that ensnared Avery in the case was brought forward by Manitowoc County Sheriff’s Department’s Sergeant Andrew Colborn and Sheriff’s Department Lieutenant James Lenk — evidence that was missed in numerous prior searches of Avery’s property. It takes viewers through his wrongful conviction and exoneration 18 years later for the rape of a woman from Manitowoc County, Wisconsin.
Using a new Twitter handle, Anonymous has promised to release emails and phone records that will expose collusion between Lenk and Colborn.
Avery is the subject of Making a Murderer, a new 10-part documentary series from Netflix .
The two policemen were also suspected of discovering evidence that would have cleared Avery’s name in his first major case years earlier than his eventual release.
LINK
Posted on 12/29/15 at 4:51 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Wisconsin juries are a joke.
There's no reason for there to be a hole in that and unsealed.
Absolutely in no way, would I have allowed for that trial to take place anywhere in Wisconsin that wasn't Milwaukee.
The cops put so much negative information out there in public to taint the jury pool. How the hell Avery's defense allowed the father of a sheriff's deputy in the same department that was setting Avery up is insane.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:47 pm to Cole Beer
In fairness to his mom, she ain't working with a full deck. She couldn't define inconsistent.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:52 pm to betheone
quote:The whole family seems the result of generations of inbreeding.
In fairness to his mom, she ain't working with a full deck. She couldn't define inconsistent.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:24 pm to drizztiger
naw, just typical rural uneducated folks scratching out a living. They should be far wealthier than they were running a scrap business. The old man seems to be a bit of a pack rat with cars. Got a neighbor like that out by me, he's covered up acres and acres with old junk cars. It's kinda a cool thing to see but it's basically worthless until he scraps it all.
They're outliers of society. Notice they way they dress to go to court, just country folk that don't have a grasp on the greater societal norms.
They're outliers of society. Notice they way they dress to go to court, just country folk that don't have a grasp on the greater societal norms.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:34 am to CtotheVrzrbck
I wasn't making a judgment on their lifestyle, just the low intelligence. I personally have family that lives in the same small town throughout generations and live the rural slow country life but some are as bright as they come.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:41 am to brmark70816
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You really think he is innocent?
I have no idea if he is innocent or not but I sure as shite see there is clear reasonable doubt.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:24 am to CtotheVrzrbck
quote:Someone on reddit posted the news coverage of this trail on youtube. Needless to say, the police and local media painted Avery pretty bad back then.
Absolutely in no way, would I have allowed for that trial to take place anywhere in Wisconsin that wasn't Milwaukee.
The cops put so much negative information out there in public to taint the jury pool. How the hell Avery's defense allowed the father of a sheriff's deputy in the same department that was setting Avery up is insane.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:32 am to CtotheVrzrbck
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Notice they way they dress to go to court, just country folk that don't have a grasp on the greater societal norms.
Court? Notice how Avery dressed as he was presented to the Governor and the State Legislature. Their dressiest garb was made up of Sea Doo and NASCAR jackets.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:39 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Notice how Avery dressed as he was presented to the Governor and the State Legislature.
My wife and I both noticed the stains on his shirt.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:24 am to OnTheBrink
Zero fricks Given
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:24 am to Byron Bojangles III
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There's no blood from Theresa! Her throat is slit, she's shot 11 times yet no blood anywhere? If Steven was to use bleach to clean it up they wouldn't have found his fingerprints. Literally no evidence other than a bullet with Theresa's DNA that was contaminated by the person doing the test.
The blood in her car that was Steven's is damming until you realize there aren't any fingerprints of his ANYWHERE on the car. For that to happen he'd need to wear gloves and the only cut he has was on his finger. It's sickening people can convict someone with so little physical evidence. Not to mention day one the jury was 7 not guilty, 3 guilty and 2 not sure. A juror has a "family emergency" has to leave and is replaced and the next day they have a guilty verdict.
This whole thing is so fricked up. Especially the thing with Brendan, as everyone said.
Just finished episode 8, will hopefully finish the last two this afternoon if work stays slow.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:43 am to bayoubighead
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Halbach had complained to her boss that she didn’t want to go out to Avery’s trailer anymore, because once when she came out, Avery was waiting for her wearing only a towel (this was excluded for being too inflammatory). Avery clearly had an obsession with Halbach.
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On the day that Halbach went missing, Avery had called her three times, twice from a *67 number to hide his identity.
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Avery had purchased handcuffs and leg irons like the ones Dassey described holding Halbach only three weeks before (Avery said he’s purchased them for use with his girlfriend, Jodi, with whom he’d had a tumultuous relationship — at one point, he was ordered by police to stay away from her for three days).
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Here’s the piece of evidence that was presented at trial but not in the series that I find most convincing: In Dassey’s illegally obtained statement, Dassey stated that he helped Avery moved the RAV4 into the junkyard and that Avery had lifted the hood and removed the battery cable. Even if you believe that the blood in Halbach’s car was planted by the cops (as I do), there was also non-blood DNA evidence on the hood latch. I don’t believe the police would plant — or know to plant — that evidence.
Not sure why more people aren't talking about this. If this is true and they left if out of the documentary, it paints the doc producers in a pretty bad light. This makes it seem that they were manufacturing evidence because they really did know that he was guilty.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:55 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Not sure why more people aren't talking about this. If this is true and they left if out of the documentary, it paints the doc producers in a pretty bad light. This makes it seem that they were manufacturing evidence because they really did know that he was guilty.
Is there any sourcing for those claims?
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