re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)

quote:

---

, there was also non-blood DNA evidence on the hood latch. I don’t believe the police would plant — or know to plant — that evidence.

---

I haven't made it that far into it yet, so I don't know if this was argued in court, but is it not possible she asked him to check something out for her while she was there? Maybe check some fluids or look at a fan belt or something for her?

My observations:

-Avery's IQ most certainly is not 73. He is of at least average intelligence (100) - and potentially as high as 105, IMO. We've seen what 73 looks like - and it's Brendan.

-As bad as I feel about Avery, the true, chilling outrage is Brendan. If the system can consume a literally retarded child like that, then I think we all need to be taking a long hard look at what we've become.

-It's clear that the vast majority of citizens have had zero exposure to the well-worn topics of coerced confessions and faulty eyewitness testimony. The prosecution actually said in it's closing remarks in the Dassey case: "innocent people don't confess". Nothing could be less true...nor more obscured from the public consciousness.

-Is it just me, or did I see Holborn as the one who escorted Brendan out of the courtroom after his guilty verdict was read? WTF? Why was he there? These people are shameless.

-It seemed like Strang was legitimately, personally moved re the entire situation...so why isn't he contributing any pro bono resources to continue to assist?

-Buting is Buster from Arrested Development

-there's any number of figures to be angry at, but I really think most of my ire is reserved for the senior people involved...the judges. How could any person with a brain have presided over the motion proceedings for Brendan's new trial and come away with ANYTHING other than vacating the result? For chrissake...HIS OWN frickING "DEFENSE" LAWYER SET HIM UP!!!

-the Halbach family had years to grieve and process this information...why do they seem so hellbent on imprisoning people who are likely to be innocent? Don't they care about catching the real killer?

-Even if you convict Brendan on the murder...how the hell do you convict him on the rape? What "evidence" was there other than his "confession"?

-It's patently evident that the system now exists to perpetuate itself. The FBI douche that came riding to the rescue was unbelievable. A litany of judges who were informed in great detail of VAST police and prosecutorial misconduct - including multiple cases of improper handling of evidence and the securing of crime scenes - evidently have simply abandoned the concept of "reasonable doubt".

-the smokeshow reporter will become famous and have multiple memes dedicated to her. Can't wait.

-I'm hoping LSU students get real creative with signs for the game in September in regards to this case.

"Innocent" is not a jury verdict.

"Innocence" isn't the issue.

The standard for a jury delivered guilty verdict is "beyond a reasonable doubt".

There is more than enough reasonable doubt for me to say "not guilty".

Let's not even consider the police and prosecutorial misconduct. Let's forget the suspicious finding of the key, the multiple unexplained cremains sites, the absolutely coerced "confession" from Brendan.

I would find not guilty because of two things.

1 - Avery's blood in the RAV4 but none of Avery's fingerprints. It is literally impossible for me to believe that Avery left blood smears from a CUT ON HIS FINGER but no fingerprints. Like, how does one even explain how that is possible???

2 - The complete lack of Teresa's blood or DNA in the primary and secondary "crime scenes". She is allegedly stabbed in the abdomen, slashed in her throat, and shot ELEVEN times. Yet, no blood or DNA from Teresa Halbach is found in Steve Avery's trailer or his garage.

The prosecution's own theory of the crime can not be proven......beyond a reasonable doubt.

Don't even get me started on my suspicions on what went on in that jury room.

The first jury poll was 7 not guilty, 3 guilty, and 2 undecided.

One of the 3 not guilty votes came from a juror with a family member employed by the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Department. Something stinks there.

quote:

---

-I'm hoping LSU students get real creative with signs for the game in September in regards to this case.

---

quote:

---

I started following Jerome Buting on Twitter and he is doing a lot to get the word out and is accepting any information on new leads and evidence.

The one positive thing I did take away from this docuseries is that there a still real, honest to God defense attorneys out there. Buting and Dean Strang did an amazing job with everything stacked against them.

---

I'm happy to hear this, but it seems to me like most of these mid-late career, very successful attys should be dedicating a good % of their time to doing pro bono work. I really respected Drizin and the crew at Northwestern. I was literally agape when that judge denied their motion on Brendan's case.

quote:

---

Buting and Dean Strang did an amazing job with everything stacked against them

---

Forgot to mention this earlier but every episode I watch I'm amazed at these guys. They are AWESOME. Does strang (I get them confused..the shorter one) remind anyone else of bob odenkirk? His voice sometimes could be a dead on ringer.

they dont' look alike but I"m telling you strang could be an odenkirk voice double.

Finished it last night and holy shite. I work in the media and have sat in on several trials, IE the Eddie Ray Routh one including many others and in the case of Avery and Brendan i dont see how the fricks can live with themselves finding them guilty with what was put before them.

Incredible.

I've gotten baked before each episode I watch, and I end up so fascinated that I've contemplated going to the nearest courthouse and just sitting in the back and watching a trial

of course, I'm sure they wouldn't be as interesting as this one.

quote:

---

As bad as I feel about Avery, the true, chilling outrage is Brendan. If the system can consume a literally retarded child like that, then I think we all need to be taking a long hard look at what we've become.

---

Agree 100%. Brendan reminds me of that one guy from the West Memphis 3 that was really mentally challenged. Hell, even if my 16 year old was very smart, I wouldn't let them talk to the police without myself as the parent present and/or with a lawyer present.

Maybe I'm harsh too, but Brendan's mom wasn't exactly mom of the year even though she does seem to love him.