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re: MTV The Challenge: Total Madness

Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:33 pm to
Posted by bcoop199
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:33 pm to
What Camila said to Leroy is worse IMO than what Dee did. Wouldn't mind paulie on the show by himself but I'm so fricking done with Cara.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:53 pm to
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Those old seasons had such great drama and cast interaction. It can't be understated how great Kenny was as a personality. He and Wes genuinely hated each other. It was great.


That's one reason why I really loved Rivals I. Most of those teams went into the season really disliking each other. Some of the later Rivals seasons they really stretched the definition.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 9:18 am to
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What Camila said to Leroy is worse IMO than what Dee did.



And neither of those is anywhere close to what Jordan did on his Real World season with the monkey noises and using the N word, yet he is still on.

Not a fan of the cancel culture, but if you are gonna do it, you have to at least be consistent
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:03 am to
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Some of the later Rivals seasons they really stretched the definition.


Ya think?

They really took some stretches with the "Exes" angle as well. Oh, these two made out hammered in a bar one night...EXES.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:47 am to
At the end of exes, they were basically even going off rumors of hookups it seemed.

Wasnt there one where John and Nany were paired up as "exes" yet there was never any footage of them actually hooking up?

John was in a relationship for years during the show. If he really does have some sway over production, that one could have easily been contrived to keep him on the show. In reality, how may exes did he really have on the show before he got single a few seasons ago?

Maybe Camilla? But that wasn't even really a relationship. It was basically just a hookup or two that I think.

He's apparently got Morgan Willett locked down now (smokeshow), and I guess she's not coming on again. She did that one season and that's it. I'm assuming the challenge house probably doesn't really help the heth of your relationship.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 12:10 pm to
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If he really does have some sway over production,


If he really did have some pull then you would think he would have been able to get Kenny and Evan back on the show
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 12:19 pm to
Most of it is IRL, off camera stuff

Kelly Anne, Nany, Casey, Camila, and Morgan.

I would have loved to see him get partnered with Casey
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:31 am to
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Wasnt there one where John and Nany were paired up as "exes" yet there was never any footage of them actually hooking up?

Yeah that’s the one I was thinking about when I said that.
Posted by tigercubs
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Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:33 pm to
CBS all access just added all the seasons back to Gauntlet 2
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 7:38 pm to
Gauntlet 2 goes way back. Those are the like the heyday of Beth and Syrus... And both of them were like 35 it seemed when it aired.

Thats also peak Miz time I would guess. I'm defiently going to get a free month of old challenge seasons there.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:17 pm to
I want to see a heavy hitters season with Turbo, Theo, Tony, Joss, Rogan, Fessy, Bananas, Wes, CT, Jordan etc and then for the girls Tori, Kam, Cara, Ashley, Jenny, Camila, Nicole and some other strong competitors who I cant think of right now
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:37 pm to
Add Derrick and Darrell and the guys would be almost impossible to navigate. I'd probably still put $$ on Turbo or Theo, though. They both beat Wes in ahead to head final. The whole house would have to team up to pit Fessy or CT (I know he's old and fat, but he could still run almost anyone over in hall brawl) against one of these guys in a elimination.

They could even call it all-stars or Heavy Hitter, like you said. Or they just get only cast members that have reached a final or won.

You obviously wouldn't have a full regular season cast of 35 or so (unless you convinced got some OGs to come on), but it would be worth it. I'd absolutely take a 10-12 episode season with no shitty competitors.

The girls is where it would get tough after 4 or 5 girls. There's just not the depth like the guys. It would still be pretty badass to see Laurel against someone like Jenny.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19352 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:01 am to
Forgot about Derrick he's must have.

I can't see Turbo if he's in the same shape he was 3 years ago losing anything that involves strength or endurance. I think he would bulldoze Fessy or CT. Maybe Jordan could out swim him thats about it.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:47 am to
So, I went to CBS and tried to watch a couple episodes of Gauntlet II... It was tough.

I love the OGs, but the game just was kind of a joke. I think it was TJs first season (or near his first).

He was very very loose and some crazy British girl I don't even remember accused the whole house of essentially sexually harrassing her on night 1 and she called the Dominican authorities, then quit. TJ didn't say anything... Just like.. Well, she's gone. Then an elimination was Derrick K. vs. white guy Adam. I totally forgot that eliminations used to be teammate against teammate. Derrick killed the guy in some coconut trivia contest that they kept wrestling in, but weren't supposed to. Then the rest of the team hated Derrick because he was the only one playing a serious game. Timmy and Dave and other OGs were like "Derrick is not a good teammate."

The partying was huge back then. I forgot how much hooking up they showed in a 21 minute episode.

Then I went to a season with a little more competition. Gauntlet III. Weirdly, CBS omitted Inferno III (Dave Mirra's last hosting I think). They have all the others after S11 but not that one.

Gauntlet 3 cast is stacked. It also has tail-end prime Coral. Her and Ev get into a big fight during the daily competition and Coral is not backing down an inch. She totally puts Ev in her place, then in her interview gives one of the greatest lines i've ever heard in the Challenge.

"I don't care who she is or how tough she's supposed to be, I'm not backing down. I don't care if there is a rumor that she has a penis... I'm not going not backing down from that bitch."

Hell, she'd be kicked off the show now.

I also forgot how much they sexed every daily competition up. All the chicks were in bikinis and the dudes were basically all in speedos or really short shorts. Johnny is barely in the show. He was just kind of another dude back then. It's also prime crazy CT. He had just hot kicked off Inferno III and was back. He had to have been 45 lbs lighter then and he was still probably every bit of 225.

For a month free, these episodes are great to have on in the background.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 1:48 am
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:02 pm to
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Weirdly, CBS omitted Inferno III (Dave Mirra's last hosting I think). They have all the others after S11 but not that one.



I noticed that also. I wonder if that was the season of the infamous Kenny/Evan/Tonya toothbrush incident


Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Jordan


Supposedly suspended for a few seasons due to his racist remarks back on his Real World season.

I guess the fact that it was years ago is the only reason he isn't gone permanently.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:31 pm to
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I noticed that also. I wonder if that was the season of the infamous Kenny/Evan/Tonya toothbrush incident


That was the Ruins
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Jordan


Supposedly suspended for a few seasons due to his racist remarks back on his Real World season.

Well that fricking sucks.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:27 pm to
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Jordan


Supposedly suspended for a few seasons due to his racist remarks back on his Real World season.

I guess the fact that it was years ago is the only reason he isn't gone permanently




Oh wow.


Was wondering why he wasn’t on the reunion at all. Especially because Tori was.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:06 pm to
I'm guessing production really must have hated Dee if others are just getting "suspended." BTW, apparently Ninja Natalie has some old tweets too. Wonder if she'll be back anytime soon. It doesn't help that most fans seem to hate her.

And for Anyone going back and watching the classic seasons, you'll remember how crazy and almost hate able CT was. Johnny and Kenny and Evan kept calling him a total scumbag...and he absolutely was. It's almost like watching a total different person.

He had to have been on a huge amount of drugs back then as well as all the roids to be that crazy. Those old seasons are the wild west.
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