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re: Most Sympathetic Villain in a Movie?
Posted on 1/20/11 at 10:54 am to LSUTygerFan
Posted on 1/20/11 at 10:54 am to LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 1/20/11 at 10:59 am to alajones
Gaston killed the beast. Not very sympathetic.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 10:59 am to alajones
What about the producer of The Truman Show? He keeps him inside a bubble, but he sets him up with a great life, pleases millions with the show, and cares for Truman.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:06 am to LSUTygerFan
quote:But that's what he did. Remember, he uses antlers in all of his decorating. He kills animals. Plus, he saw the beast as competition for Belle. He wasn't evil by any means.
Gaston killed the beast. Not very sympathetic.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:06 am to Vicks Kennel Club
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What about the producer of The Truman Show? He keeps him inside a bubble, but he sets him up with a great life, pleases millions with the show, and cares for Truman.
True.
So Ed Harris is now three characters on this list.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:07 am to CocomoLSU
quote:Harris plays the villain pretty well. I think Enemy at the Gates was his best.
So Ed Harris is now three characters on this list.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:14 am to alajones
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He wasn't evil by any means
Then he shouldn't be listed as a villain.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:15 am to LSUTygerFan
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Michael Sullivan in Road To Pertition
Although road to peridition is probabaly the most underrated movie of all time, Michael Sullivan seems more like the hero than villain.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:18 am to LSUTygerFan
Freddy Krueger
He was the bastard child of a hundred maniacs. Not his fault.
He was the bastard child of a hundred maniacs. Not his fault.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:21 am to LSUTygerFan
quote:You don't have to be evil to be the villain. Besides if you look at this thread, it has really evolved into antagonist more than villain.
Then he shouldn't be listed as a villain.
What makes/who is or isn't a villain could be a thread that goes for a hundred pages.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:27 am to alajones
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You don't have to be evil to be the villain.
I disagree. But for the sake of not derailing the thread, we can agree to disagree.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:29 am to LSUTygerFan
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Then he shouldn't be listed as a villain.
You can be a villain and not be evil.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:31 am to theunknownknight
No one said Michael Corleone yet so a fight could ensue?
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:33 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Leon The Professional
Not the villian in this movie.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:34 am to Freauxzen
quote:We aren't going down that road again.
No one said Michael Corleone yet so a fight could ensue?
Just bless all my nominees please and we will move on.
This post was edited on 1/20/11 at 11:36 am
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:34 am to CAD703X
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...and while we're on the subject, if you are a fan of japanese movies, often they establish a villian early on and then by halfway through teh movie, they're not the 'villian' at all anymore.
see "nausicaa" and "princess mononoke" (anime).
that's one of the things i LOVE about japanese films..its not a cut-and-dry good guy vs. bad guy and circumstances could change their point of view. american movies..not so much.
Thats more just Miyazaki though. The only really evil character ever in his films was Mark Hamill in Laputa. Miyazaki is just a guy who doesn't believe in pure evil, but he believes that almost everyone has some redeeming characteristic.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:36 am to alajones
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We aren't going down that road again.
Just bless all my nominees and we will move on.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:38 am to Freauxzen
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No one said Michael Corleone yet so a fight could ensue?
Since he's the protagonist, doesn't that disqualify him from being a villain? This is also a reason I find Hannibal Lector a bad choice whenever people say he's one of the great film villains, since he directly helps Clarice find Buffalo Bill and has no intention of harming her. Just don't really get why Hannibal gets all the glory, but Bill is rarely mentioned in great villain conversations.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:40 am to OMLandshark
quote:This is the argument Freauxzen and I got into a while back. He would start throwing Joseph Campbell at me and I would cite AFI. Its just best to walk away.
Since he's the protagonist, doesn't that disqualify him from being a villain? This is also a reason I find Hannibal Lector a bad choice whenever people say he's one of the great film villains, since he directly helps Clarice find Buffalo Bill and has no intention of harming her. Just don't really get why Hannibal gets all the glory, but Bill is rarely mentioned in great villain conversations.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:46 am to alajones
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This is the argument Freauxzen and I got into a while back. He would start throwing Joseph Campbell at me and I would cite AFI. Its just best to walk away.
Good times.
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