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re: Mobland - Paramount+ (now w spoilers)

Posted on 5/26/25 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 6:30 pm to
Yes, after episode 2 a couple of us theorized that Eddie was Conrad’s based on the way Maeve acted towards him, filling him with lies, putting him ant risk and plying him with cocaine. Something a grandmother wouldn’t do even Maeve. Her telling Kevin what she told him then Conrad getting a confession from Eddie proved that.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 6:32 pm
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Her telling Kevin


This is why I question it’s actually Eddie. What mother would do that? Besides Maeve
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 6:43 pm to
She wants Harry, Bella, Eddie and Saraphina gone so it’s not surprising she’d pit Kevin against Eddie
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 6:43 pm
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 7:06 pm to
I’m probably overthinking it, but that seems too obvious. Gotta be some connection to something else we aren’t privy to yet
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:58 am to
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I watched in bed so I’ll have to rewatch but it seemed like Conrad said Maeve is the one who ratted about Archie at the dinner table. He basically said it’s all Maeve. Maybe I’m remembering wrong

Was Conrad putting on a show when he was confronting Maeve at the table? Obviously, the Serephina thing was planned.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:03 am to
If the rat were the attorney why would Harry care about protecting her when he found out the identity last week?

Interesting theory I read, they did go out of their way to mention the place has camera everywhere, which is why Harry is fine letting the undercover woman go with the evidence, and why he’s meeting with the lawyer the next morning.

Kevin could be the rat and that’s why Harry was so adamant about his maid’s mother getting in that nursing home. He knew hearing that guard’s name would send him down a dark path.
Posted by BabysArmHoldingApple
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:53 am to
There may be many clues that I missed that would rule this out, but any chance that Harry is the rat? Could explain why he didn't mention finding the rat as a condition of the Fentanyl deal when he was on the phone with the cartel guy. Also maybe why he let Alice/Nicola go? Maybe why he threw the other guy off the roof (because maybe he knew that Harry was a rat). Plus the whole thing with Eddie and his daughter.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:21 am to
Why would people tell Harry that there is a rat if they know he’s the rat?

He didn’t have a choice with Alice, what was he going to do? Kill her while he knew there was a police convoy 1 minute out?

Freddie wanting to get out was too much of a risk.

IMO, he didn’t mention that the rat was a condition of the deal because he was going to take care of the rat, therefore the condition didn’t matter.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:23 am to
Not kill her but he didn’t have to let her leave with the dna she was going to use to pin the cop murders on him
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:28 am to
Maybe he knew that she was being recorded? Or, maybe he knows the family is a shitshow and is on the way out. That doesn’t mean that he’s the rat, but the fact that there is a rat is just another reason that the family is going to fail.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:00 pm to
Oh I don’t think he’s the rat I’m just saying he let her go with ease knowing what she’s up to

I think he knows there’s video evidence of her collecting it so he let her walk with it to hang herself and tattersall.

Just starting to think this is all a giant head fake and he ends up sticking with Conrad and not looking for an escape hatch, which will make Kat the antagonist in season 2.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:02 pm to
Possible that Harry sees the cigar set-up as being something that he can easily take care of. As in his being relieved that they're not attacking with something stronger.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:38 pm to
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Just starting to think this is all a giant head fake and he ends up sticking with Conrad and not looking for an escape hatch,

I just wouldn't understand that line of thinking for his character, especially after the way that the show has made it clear that Harry can clearly see that Conrad and Maeve are destroying everything around them and are both BSC. I get that Harry is loyal, but you can't be loyal to someone who is imploding the way that Conrad is, especially when he knows that his wife and daughter are in Conrad's (and Maeve's) crosshairs.

I think that he let the narc go because it's an easy out for him if the cops can pin a murder on Conrad, and with Conrad out of the way Harry would have Kevin & Seraphina on his side to help combat Maeve's crazy a$$ if she gets out of jail. And with Conrad out of the way, Harry probably feels like he could essentially run the whole Harrigan empire with Kevin being basically the figure head leader. A potential roadblock would be if Seraphina gets weary of Harry, and tries to get in-between Harry and Kevin. I guess another roadblock would be if Kevin goes down for killing the rapist guy. But I think the endgame of this is either Harry takes control of the Harrigan emipre, or burns it down so that he and his family can get out.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:03 pm to
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burns it down so that he and his family can get out.

I think this is ultimately what he's going to want to do.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:12 pm to
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I think this is ultimately what he's going to want to do.

It's probably what he's going to have to do, especially if Kevin either gets taken out or turns on Harry (Kevin's wife will probably also be another issue for Kevin and Harry's relationship). But I think at this point in the story Harry is hoping that him & Kevin can salvage the empire. Again though, it probably won't work out like that for Harry, and he'll have to burn it all down.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162904 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:15 pm to
Also bringing up Kevin’s wife…why exactly would Paul fear her?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Also bringing up Kevin’s wife…why exactly would Paul fear her?
She may rank higher than him in the family due to her being The Governor's former (?) mistress and the mother of Eddie (whoever his father really is). Plus she's shown a talent for blackmail.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19801 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:22 pm to
I think Kevin's wife is the snake.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70597 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:30 pm to
Maybe but I don’t think so, him going to Eddie to get the full story about what Maeve’s been up to prior to the dinner suggests otherwise. Remember he’s been suspicious of her from the get go and has blown up on her for some of the stuff he’s found out along the way. He’s covered for her in front of the family but he may have done that to save face.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
10012 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:24 pm to
Richie asked Tattersall to get Conrad and Maeve to a place he could handle them. Not sure Tattersall wants it to ever go to trial.

Harry could have been recording Alice saying that Conrad was going to go down for something he didn’t do. Specifically the murder of the two task force members. He would have significant leverage over her if he did.
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