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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:23 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:23 am
Let me start off this thread by saying that I really do like this movie a lot. It's consistently funny, even if unbelievable in the realm of "no way things can get worse for that dude."

That being said, I caught some of it over the weekend and lots of things stood out to me on why Greg was too good for Pam and he should've been like "frick you, bitch...I'm leaving you." She has to be one of the worst significant others in movie history. Let's take a look..

- Jack in the CIA.
She never told Greg about her dad in the CIA. Instead, she lied to him with the cover story of him being a retired florist. Now, I understand that they had only been together around a year or so (ten months maybe?), but she is finally taking him to meet her parents...specifically her dad, and knows that Gaylord has bought him a Jerusalem Tulip. She could've saved him some face by telling him instead of letting him get this awesome (for a florist) gift that Jack completely didn't give a frick about. Nice job, Pam.

- She doesn't wake him up when everyone gets there.
So everybody is downstairs having a grand ole time in the kitchen/dining room, and Pam decides to not wake Greg up. Now, she says she wanted to let him sleep, but she should know him well enough to know that he'd want to be down there meeting and hanging with everyone. I mean shite, any person in his situation would want to be there. Just go wake him up and let him know that people are there and he easily gets up, showers, and comes down to mingle. But instead, you let him roll up into the kitchen in his robe (scratch that...Jack's robe) to be partially embarassed that he basically overslept. Not to mention that they had shite to do that day, and Greg was the only one not ready.

- "Wake up Denny and borrow some of his clothes."
When he tells her that he doesn't want to borrow Jack's clothes anymore and isn't comfortable wearing her dad's underwear, her response is to go wake up her brother, whom he's never met, and ask him to borrow some clothes. Now, Pam...why the frick would you think that wouldn't be a little bit awkward? You go ask your pothead brother if you can borrow some clothes for your boyfriend to wear since the airline lost his luggage. You could also take the time to fricking introduce them since they've never met before ever in life.

- Didn't tell Greg about her engagement to Kevin.
That's a pretty solid piece of information right there, and one that a serious boyfriend (that you fricking live with) should know. You've told him all about your relationship with Kev, but left out one pretty important fricking detail. That's completely selfish IMO. And let's not forget that when Greg rightfully bitches about that, Pam defends it by saying that she knew Kevin wasn't the one because their relationship was purely sexual. Nice work, idiot.

- Didn't tell him that Kevin is Bob's best man.
"Oh, Greg...I thought I told you..." Oh go frick yourself, bitch. You know damn well you didn't say shite to Gaylord about Kevin being Bob's best man, or that the swim party ya'll were going to was at Kev's house. That's bullshite, and an even MORE awkward situation than the whole Denny thing. You are a terrible person, Pam.

- - "Nice shot Maverick." "Thanks, Goose!"
So when Greg sees you and Kev-o and your little cool Top Gun nicknames, and isn't happy about it (understandable I guess, but sort of a pussy move on Greg's part though), your response is that Top Gun was popular when the two of you dated. Way to not give a frick about your boyfriend's feelings (even if they are kinda pussified). And on top of that, when Greg says that Kevin could be Goose, she says no because Goose dies. Nice.

- "Greg hates cats."
Knowing how much your dad loves cats, Pam, why the hell would you throw Greg completely under the bus like that and tell Jack that he hates cats? You could've even said that he "doesn't like cats" or that he's allergic or whatever, but you just randomly tossed it out there that he hates cats, knowing how obsessed your dad is with Mr. Jinx. Not cool.

- "Keep you snake in its cage."
After Jack has the talk with Gaylord about it being his house and his rules, Pam tries to jump Greg's bones and he explains to her that her dad told him to keep his snake in its cage for the next 72 hours and he wants to respect that. She backs off, but is pissed about it. Then, the absolute next time they are alone, she's all like "frick that bullshite" and gets all up on his jammy again, only to have his dad (and Larry) walk in and get them busted. So not only did she ignore the fact that her dad doesn't want his daughter to be fricked under his roof, but she also gave zero fricks that Greg also wanted to respect her father's wishes as well, and ended up not only getting them busted, but also got Greg into some hot water with Jack because he felt betrayed. Again, total bitch move right there.

- Volunteering Greg to find Jinx.
So when Jinxy gets out (which was 100% Greg's fault admittedly...but nobody knew that at the time), everyone is in a tizzy and Jack is beside himself. So what brilliant idea does Pam spout off without even consulting Gaylord? "Greg will find him!" Seriously? Gee..thanks, honey. Thanks for giving me this nearly impossible task to try to live up to. Nevermind that I just met the damn cat a day or two ago, and am not familiar with him at all, or the fact that I "hate cats" anyway...thanks for choosing me to do this when nobody knows where the frick the cat could be. I guess she just wanted him to drive/walk around until he found something. Who knows. As stupid of a move as it was to try to pawn off a stray cat with a painted tail as Mr. Jinx, it's hard to blame Gaylord for doing it. I mean after all, he had to do something to live up to this giant expectation that Pam thrust him into. And let's not forget that he did that just to calm everyone down until he found the real Mr. Jinx. Of course, that cat did end up shredding the wedding dress, so that one is on Greg.

- Actions at the Surf and Turf.
So when the family is at the Surf and Turf eating/celebrating, everyone is having a good time. Well, almost everyone...we see Kevin pouting like a bitch in the corner. So Greg and Pam are slow dancing and what the frick does that bitch have the nerve to say? "Look how lonely he is...maybe I should go ask him to dance..?" Are you fricking kidding me? Within the last 24 hours, you've not only gotten busted for lying about being engaged to this a-hole, but also intentionally neglected to tell Gaylord that the party was at Kev-o's house and that he was Bob's best man, not to mention the whole "Maverick/Goose" discussion...and now you want to throw him a fricking bone and go dance with him (while you're dancing with Greg already)? Are you psycho? How about you pay your boyfriend the slightest bit of attention so that, I dunno...your family actually thinks that you like this dude? Unbelievable.

This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 11:11 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:24 am to
(cont'd)...


- She never defends him at all for anything.
The whole movie, people are fricking with Greg about everything. Nonstop. The nurses, Jack, Larry/Bob, Denny...everybody is fricking with Greg. Yet Pam never feels the need to stand up for him. She VERY briefly defends him about acing the MCAT, but is quickly convinced by her father that he very possibly lied about that. In fact, she goes ahead and calls Greg's parents to get them to fax her a copy of the actual results and that's when she finally believes that he was telling her the truth about it. But aside from that, she never defends him about being "just a nurse" when her entire family is laughing at him.

- Not to mention that she apparently has no problem with everyone calling him "Focker." How disrespectful is that bullshite? Who in their right mind would be cool with her family calling her very serious boyfriend by his last name, especially when the only reason they are doing it is because it's a funny last name.

- Also, when shite finally hits the fan and everyone finds out about Greg's mistakes, she straight up lets him leave to fly home without so much as giving him one minute to explain what had happened. If she truly cared about him, she'd at least tell her family to hold the frick on and she'd talk to him one on one and try to sort some of that bullshite out. But nah, she just lets him peace out. Real nice, Pam. You are the fricking worst.



Also, why did everyone get SO pissed at Greg for spiking the volleyball and hitting Deb in the face? Clearly it was an accident and wasn't malicious in any way. Not to mention that prior to that, everyone in the pool was ragging on him for not hitting anything, and several other people were spiking the frick out the ball as well.

On top of that, why would they split the teams the way they were split? You had Kevin, Pam, Deb, and Bob versus Greg, Jack, Denny, and Larry. Not to be a misogynist, but why not split the teams three guys and one girl on each team?

As an aside to this, why would Kev give those tiny swimtrunks to Greg? Kev-O wasn't wearing anything like that in the pool, and most people (especially anyone in Kevin's financial situation) have more than one swimsuit...so he damn sure had another regular swimsuit in his house and was clearly giving that itty bitty pair to Gaylord just to be a dick.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:26 am to
Good lord, that is the most text ever written about a mediocre comedy.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:27 am to
Sweet. Thanks for your awesome contribution.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:32 am to
A wee bit of time on your hands I see.

The correct answer is that without all of those contrived irrational behaviour situations, you don't have a movie.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:33 am to
Quite epic sir.

But yeah. Pam was a bitch. Big time.
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:33 am to
Wow, just wow, can't believe I read it all....

Very well thought out and I agree, she is a bitch.
Posted by White Shadeaux
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:34 am to
Dude. I totally agree with this 100%. I was thinking some of these things the last time I watched this as well.

Focker should have stood up for himself a little bit more, but yeah, Pam is a huge whore that obviously is still fricking Kevin behind his back.


Posted by bbap
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:36 am to
quote:

- She doesn't wake him up when everyone gets there.
So everybody is downstairs having a grand ole time in the kitchen/dining room, and Pam decides to not wake Greg up. Now, she says she wanted to let him sleep, but she should know him well enough to know that he'd want to be down there meeting and hanging with everyone. I mean shite, any person in his situation would want to be there. Just go wake him up and let him know that people are there and he easily gets up, showers, and comes down to mingle. But instead, you let him roll up into the kitchen in his robe (scratch that...Jack's robe) to be partially embarassed that he basically overslept. Not to mention that they had shite to do that day, and Greg was the only one not ready.

- "Wake up Denny and borrow some of his clothes."
When he tells her that he doesn't want to borrow Jack's clothes anymore and isn't comfortable wearing her dad's underwear, her response is to go wake up her brother, whom he's never met, and ask him to borrow some clothes. Now, Pam...why the frick would you think that wouldn't be a little bit awkward? You go ask your pothead brother if you can borrow some clothes for your boyfriend to wear since the airline lost his luggage. You could also take the time to fricking introduce them since they've never met before ever in life.


yeah these parts always pissed me off. i havent read through all of your nitpicks yet.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:36 am to
Great read. All of your points are spot on. Pam was awful.

Even this:
quote:

Now, I understand that they had only been together around a year or so (ten months maybe?), but she is finally taking him to meet her parents...specifically her dad, and knows that Gaylord has bought him a Jerusalem Tulip. She could've saved him some face by telling him instead of letting him get this awesome (for a florist) gift that Jack completely didn't give a frick about. Nice job, Pam


Could have been explained away because of Jack's "human lie detector" ability, maybe she was afraid Jack would be able to figure out Pam had told him beforehand...but she still spills the beans to Greg about Jack AFTER he interrogates Greg
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Sweet. Thanks for your awesome contribution.


No problem.

Everything you pointed out if taken out would have left zero comedic landscape, but yea Pam was a thunder count.
Posted by Urban OhiO
Columbus
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:39 am to
Never looked at it that way, in a way Greg is a microcosm of today's male. The woman where's the pants for the most part.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:39 am to
I caught this on TV over the weekend as well, and you are pretty much spot on with everything that you said, except:
quote:

As stupid of a move as it was to try to pawn off a stray cat with a painted tail as Mr. Jinx, it's hard to blame Gaylord for doing it


It's easy to blame him for that frick up. Just fricking say you couldn't find the cat. Had he never brought in the painted stray, things would have been much better for him....... Much better, but still shitty. Watching this flick for the first time, I was thinking, "oh shite, you dumb frick, don't do it!".

That frick up almost made me lose sympathy for ole Gaylord..... Almost

You brought up a good point regarding the volleyball teams. Everyone knows that when you have 8 players, and 2 are girls, each team gets a bitch. So, not only should their be one girl on each team, but frickin' Pam should have made it a point to be on Greg's team. This would have also spared him the punishment of the whorish Top Gun bullshite she pulled with Kevin.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 11:42 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:40 am to
quote:

A wee bit of time on your hands I see.



I've always hated Pam, but I was watching some this weekend and shite was just standing out to me big time, so I started taking notes on my phone. Ended up with like 10+ bullet points. Figured it would make a decent discussion thread.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:40 am to
I have always hated this movie, and hated her. You articulated it well.

Such a count. He should have peaced out on that bitch long before that.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Good lord, that is the most text ever written about a mediocre comedy.



Beat me to it. I went into the movie expecting it to be a masterpiece the way people were talking about it.

Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:42 am to
just reading these pissed me off. Pam is a megacount.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:43 am to
I love it when you over analyze movies/TV shows
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Focker should have stood up for himself a little bit more

Definitely. I would've definitely told them not to call me Focker at the very least.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Wow, just wow, can't believe I read it all.


I did too, and I agree Pam sucks.

She made the whole introduction to the family 100% worse
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