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re: MCU question. Re:snap How many do you think still died anyway?
Posted on 4/30/21 at 12:29 pm to Napoleon
Posted on 4/30/21 at 12:29 pm to Napoleon
You just have to explain it away in the following manner:
The stones basically grant the wearer/owner omniscience. So, Tony could see "everything" at once, and could place "anything" where it needed to be in that moment. If someone is safe, he leaves them alone, if someone is in danger he places them out of danger.
Yes he does that at a cosmic scale. Yes it's tough to wrap your brain around. Yes, it's from a comic book.
The stones basically grant the wearer/owner omniscience. So, Tony could see "everything" at once, and could place "anything" where it needed to be in that moment. If someone is safe, he leaves them alone, if someone is in danger he places them out of danger.
Yes he does that at a cosmic scale. Yes it's tough to wrap your brain around. Yes, it's from a comic book.
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 12:30 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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There had to be a few rapists, murderers or otherwise assholes who got snapped. Their victims have had 5 years of peace. Now their assailants are back.
Thats why you have cells of groups wanting to kill people.
They are optimists at marvel though and think the world would be nice and that after aliens invading, half everyone dying..then coming back, we would still be worried about a black man having a former white man's title.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:55 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:. Pretty sure they had taken over some of the spaces vacated by the blipped. My guess is lots of places need mass immigration to function. After the Tony snap, they were unnecessary and withOut home or country since they had migrated. Old places couldn’t or wouldn’t take them back, so they were refugees. The blip world was Thanos’s dream realized for theM as they had better access to all kinds of stuff.
flag smashers were the returned who didn't get their stuff back.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:02 pm to Freauxzen
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So, Tony could see "everything" at once, and could place "anything" where it needed to be in that moment.
All Tony had to do was dust Thanos and company.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:14 pm to imjustafatkid
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Like the flag smashers were the returned who didn't get their stuff back.
complete opposite
they were poor people who benefited from the snap and the extra resources that it provided
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:14 pm to Napoleon
On the 5 Years:
Dr. Strange set that sequence of events up. When he was going through the over 14 million scenarios he knew that by Giving Thanos the Time Stone it would take 5 years for this to play out. It was the only option. He knew that Stark would have a kid with Pepper and not change that.
On the People Still Dying in the Air or over water...
My only thought to that was when Banner did his Snap and wished everyone back the Infinity Stones comprehended Banners intent to returned alive and in the closest safe spot to rematerialize. I mean, these or "Infinity Stones" and not exactly inanimate objects.
Dr. Strange set that sequence of events up. When he was going through the over 14 million scenarios he knew that by Giving Thanos the Time Stone it would take 5 years for this to play out. It was the only option. He knew that Stark would have a kid with Pepper and not change that.
On the People Still Dying in the Air or over water...
My only thought to that was when Banner did his Snap and wished everyone back the Infinity Stones comprehended Banners intent to returned alive and in the closest safe spot to rematerialize. I mean, these or "Infinity Stones" and not exactly inanimate objects.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:39 pm to Crimson K
I agree 100%.
Hulk should have snapped them back to five years ago and stopped Thanos from doing the snap in the first place. That's usually how big extention level stories play out in the comics. Without the regular people really knowing.
Though Thanos and the snap set the tone for the next 10 years of movies.
Now I wonder will they ever reboot or just keep the story rolling into the 30's.
Hulk should have snapped them back to five years ago and stopped Thanos from doing the snap in the first place. That's usually how big extention level stories play out in the comics. Without the regular people really knowing.
Though Thanos and the snap set the tone for the next 10 years of movies.
Now I wonder will they ever reboot or just keep the story rolling into the 30's.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:41 pm to wildtigercat93
I imagine a lot. Easy pickings. Lol
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:44 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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On the 5 Years:
I mean, I just don't know why instead of Hulk snapping everyone back, he didn't just snap time back to before the first snap AND gather all disparate living Avengers from both timelines.
You can do all the stuff with Stark the same just have him conflicted over the erasure of his future daughter (and/or knowledge that she will live on in an alternate timeline without him).
Maybe they kill Thanos without the gauntlet and Tony snaps everyone (but himself and Cap, obviously) back to their original timelines. Even better if he sacrifices 2018-Tony with one snap to send everyone back to 2023 and then sacrifices 2023-Tony to send Cap back. Then Marvel continues contuity from the 2018 timeline.
Only people gone are 2018/2023-Tony, 2018-Cap, and anyone who died in the final fight against Thanos. All the snapped people are still gone in 2023-timeline but we aren't visiting it again so wgaf.
Also just to add - all time travel storylines in all media are totally stupid and full of plot holes.
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 4/30/21 at 3:10 pm to Muthsera
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I mean, I just don't know why instead of Hulk snapping everyone back, he didn't just snap time back to before the first snap AND gather all disparate living Avengers from both timelines.
Again, this all goes back to Dr. Strange. He didn't just give Thanos the Time Stone, he specifically asked Thanos to spare Tony Stark's life because he knew how the events would unfold. Banner's role was part of a predestination.
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Also just to add - all time travel storylines in all media are totally stupid and full of plot holes.
That's a whole thread on it's own. We're talking Sam Beckett Swiss Cheese holes.
I'll throw in the Pet Peeve of why Vision's body didn't remain in Wakanda. Even if Siri was snapped the vibranium in Visions body was from stolen supplies if you remember Age of Ultron
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 4/30/21 at 3:23 pm to Muthsera
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Also just to add - all time travel storylines in all media are totally stupid and full of plot holes.
Pretty much. Except maybe
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 3:46 pm to wildtigercat93
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How many dudes got snapped up and then came back to find their wife married to their best friend or one of her coworkers?
Posted on 5/1/21 at 9:29 am to Crimson K
quote:Because then you would be dusting billions of other people?
It really makes Tony Stark out as a colossal dick. Why not reset everything To right after killing original Thanos and keep His daughter and knowledge Of those 5 years for himself?
Posted on 5/1/21 at 10:20 am to CU_Tigers4life
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On the People Still Dying in the Air or over water...
My question is what about the people that weren’t dusted but died because of the snap?
Like we saw a helicopter crash into a building that Fury post credit soon. What happens to those that died in the crash and the ungodly amounts of car crashes that must’ve happened? Were they brought back?
Posted on 5/1/21 at 10:26 am to theGarnetWay
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quote:
On the People Still Dying in the Air or over water...
My question is what about the people that weren’t dusted but died because of the snap?
Like we saw a helicopter crash into a building that Fury post credit soon. What happens to those that died in the crash and the ungodly amounts of car crashes that must’ve happened? Were they brought back?
I think it comes down to 2 options:
1. When Thanos did the Snap to eliminate half of the universe, the Infinity Stones took into account the people that would die for the event and only dust those people to keep the balance.
2. They're screwed and died. Really no way around it. Banner couldn't bring Natasha back so I think that would apply to the other people that died.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 2:46 pm to OMLandshark
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I’d say Thanos is fricked if you reset it to the moment Thor hit him with Stormbreaker.
Still don't know how he took a fricking ax right to the heart and lived to make a bad arse soup a few days later.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 3:34 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Good try but that’s just ripe for interpretation problems.
Would a straight-pin prick count? Or stubbed toe?
Mental harm? Like coming back close to a mentally abusive person like a bad mother in law?
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) in no danger of physical or mental harm due to said placement and time.
Would a straight-pin prick count? Or stubbed toe?
Mental harm? Like coming back close to a mentally abusive person like a bad mother in law?
Posted on 5/1/21 at 10:53 pm to theGarnetWay
How about all the people that got snapped back out into the middle of the ocean?
You got snapped back from where you were previously 5 years ago right? Well how many hundreds of thousands were on cruise ships or just on boats out in the ocean when they got snapped, 5 years later they get blipped back and that ship or boat isn’t there anymore so they plop down into the ocean.
They got snapped back into a horrible second death, tread water until you drown from exhaustion.
You got snapped back from where you were previously 5 years ago right? Well how many hundreds of thousands were on cruise ships or just on boats out in the ocean when they got snapped, 5 years later they get blipped back and that ship or boat isn’t there anymore so they plop down into the ocean.
They got snapped back into a horrible second death, tread water until you drown from exhaustion.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 12:39 am to Muthsera
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Also just to add - all time travel storylines in all media are totally stupid and full of plot holes.
This is what it’s come to for me. Time travel stories fold onto themselves. They suck and I avoid them now.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 1:42 pm to biglego
What about the guy that was having sex with his wife and snap gone.
Then she sells the house cuz she can’t deal with it.
Then bam you’re laying in your bedroom and instantly some naked guy with a boner is thrusting two feet away.
No wonder the flagsmashers were mad.
Then she sells the house cuz she can’t deal with it.
Then bam you’re laying in your bedroom and instantly some naked guy with a boner is thrusting two feet away.
No wonder the flagsmashers were mad.
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