MASH Movie: Hot Lips Shower Scene

Dude... It's a comedy from the early 70s That's set in the early 50s... Jus laugh.

I may in be the minority, but I still far prefer Altman's MASH film over the TV show. I don't like how they completely eliminated the Tom Skeritt character from the show (the 3rd lead in the movie) and made Hot Lips not out to be a punchline annoyance like she was in the movie.

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eliminated the Tom Skeritt character

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To be fair even in the movie he becomes a borderline background character in the last 2/3 of the movie.

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Hot Lips not out to be a punchline annoyance like she was in the movie.

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She was nothing but a punchline character for the first 6 seasons. It’s not till Burns is replaced by Winchester they changed her character. And over 12 seasons her character is one of the few that showed growth and change.

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Dorothy threw water on the Wicked Witch

She's a fricking MURDERER

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My friend, I’m not knocking it because I can’t suspend disbelief or am a PC SJ Warrior.

I view nothing wrong with the movie and laugh at it even though I was born 21 years after it premiered. I’m just pointing out by today standards you are not getting away with that scene.

Someone read that crap article in The Guardian yesterday.

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Hawkeye, Trapper & the rest of the 4077 committed a sex crime?

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As much death as they dealt with on a daily basis, I doubt this reached any degree of seriousness with any of them

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As much death as they dealt with on a daily basis, I doubt this reached any degree of seriousness with any of them

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Oh ok so is that a blanket excusing of all sex crimes or is their a degree of what they could get away with?

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I think they’d have more trouble with “spear chucker” today

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Out of context, it is pretty bad. The insertion in the novel is clearly intentional - a reminder of the character's perceived inferiority, while making the character a noble peer, rather than a typical, stereotypical subservient or morally flawed role (See N-word Jim from Huckleberry Finn). The whole purpose is to challenge that label when applied to that particular character (and therefore challenge it more broadly).

In context, it was fine. That was his track and field nickname (javelin). The character was obviously fine with it.

Queue: Blazing Saddles

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I view nothing wrong with the movie and laugh at it even though I was born 21 years after it premiered. I’m just pointing out by today standards you are not getting away with that scene.

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Well, not on network TV. Cable TV has people murdering people, feeding them to dogs, whatever. You can get away with a LOT more on services that don't rely on advertisers.

If a show relies on advertising dollars - it will be (mostly) safe, formulaic, etc.

If a show doesn't (HBO/Showtime or streaming services), then there's more freedom.

A lot of stuff changed more because the formula of what advertisers would spend their money on changed. It doesn't matter if SJW says this or MAGA says that - at the end of the day, advertisers want as many viewers as possible to sell their stuff. They want a show like Friends, or Big Bang Theory, that don't push boundaries in either direction (or at least rarely do).

You could easily have that scene on a Netflix show or HBO. Porky's might not be made today, but that's less "SJW" and more "Where's the big budget special effects?" Or at least it would show up as a Showtime original instead.