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re: MASH Movie: Hot Lips Shower Scene

Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by OystermanTiger
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:41 pm to
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Out of context, it is pretty bad.
I hear you and agree with you. My point was in today’s climate, even in context, it would no go over well. The argument being they wouldn’t call a white javelin athlete spear chucker.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:26 pm to
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I did laugh at the time and not blaming anyone for the joke at the time. Mainly just pointing out that our society has become a bunch of victims looking for their next thing to be offended about.


Fixed.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:30 am to
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The argument being they wouldn’t call a white javelin athlete spear chucker.


Well, that wouldn't make sense. But, athletes are notorious for roasting each other - like when Jason Sehorn was in the NFL playing cornerback (the last white guy to start at the position, significantly), his teammates razzed him for both being white and not wanting to huddle with them (the corners were supposed to stay out wide, and I think he was the only white starter on defense for the Giants for significant portions of that time) AND having model good looks.

So, it depends on the circumstances and "context" (again with that word), I suppose.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 9:31 am
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:36 am to
Don’t know about a “sex crime”, but it probably violated some rule of Military Justice. The scene probably would be criticized today, but the times are totally different. When I was a kid and saw it in a theater, I thought it was great to see a little T and A. ??
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:46 am to
I do not like the movie. Too old for me. And too “zany” for my tastes. The scene where they go to Japan to operate on a generals kid or something? They get into a sword fight using a golf club to drive back a female soldier of some sort?

Probably would have gotten him shot or arrested there.

But moviemaking styles and the world was different in 1970-71. Think they were going with a Mean Streets style of filming (which I know was after in 1973) which is the closest example to what I can think of.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:16 am to
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like when Jason Sehorn was in the NFL playing cornerback (the last white guy to start at the position, significantly)
I'm guessing you read Steve Sailer too
Posted by IamPatman
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:45 pm to
It was just a different time and you could take out MASH and fill in the blank with tons of films from that time. Potential sex crimes were committed in the name of humor in Revenge of the Nerds. Porkys, My Tutor, Animal House, Caddyshack...hell even 16 Candles. Times change...sometimes for better and sometimes not.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:14 pm to
A lot of what Hawkeye and Trapper did in that show would meet the scorn of today's oversensitive military.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:40 pm to
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I'm guessing you read Steve Sailer too


I'm familiar with the cat, but I don't endorse white supremacy. Like the whole gender debacle, I sort of fall into the category of - the "races" (collectively) have objectively demonstrated various strengths and weaknesses over the span of history and in modern societies. I merely observe and acknowledge these.

But the world is becoming increasingly mixed race - and that isn't necessarily a bad thing in my view. Further, I don't judge (or value) folks based on immutable characteristics outside that individual's control. I take each individual as I find him or her.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 5:23 pm to
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I'm familiar with the cat, but I don't endorse white supremacy. Like the whole gender debacle, I sort of fall into the category of - the "races" (collectively) have objectively demonstrated various strengths and weaknesses over the span of history and in modern societies. I merely observe and acknowledge these.
That's pretty much Sailer's take as well. He's about as far from a white supremacist as a white guy can be.
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But the world is becoming increasingly mixed race - and that isn't necessarily a bad thing in my view.
Nor should it be a bad thing that someone chooses not to actively participate in that mixing, regardless of their race. But that appears to be beyond the pale these days (pun intended).
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