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re: Marvel hasnt had to do $h/+ the past year....
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:43 am to Warfarer
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:43 am to Warfarer
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Yep, I am honestly shocked they decided to hold Black Widow off of Disney+ though, especially after HBO got WW84.
Because DC is a turd sammich and provides no real competition. The Mouse can afford to delay a movie because of their considerable content advantage and the fact they had WandaVision and Falcon/WS to drop among other Disney+ MCU product.
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:12 am to Warfarer
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I am honestly shocked they decided to hold Black Widow off of Disney+ though, especially after HBO got WW84.
Possibly charging twice for Mulan didn’t do the business they expected.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:16 am to DaleGribble
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Can not wait until this fad runs it's course.
Nerd culture has done a number to filmmaking. I'm personally over it and can't wait for it to go the way of the Western.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:07 pm to Ignignot
Black Widow and the Eternals are shot.
They filmed three TV shows.
They filmed three TV shows.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:10 pm to Ignignot
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Marvel knew it was coming. They built in a down year intentionally.
China definitely tipped Disney off on what they and the Democrats were planning.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 5:18 pm to RollTide1987
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Nerd culture has done a number to filmmaking. I'm personally over it and can't wait for it to go the way of the Western.
They’re Sci-Fi action and fantasy movies with a built-in audience. You’re crazy if you think that’s a fad, or that it’s going away.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:06 pm to PowerTool
It’s been 12 years. Let it lie. The only way big budget films on that scale can be made in the future with any relative success is if moviegoers come back to the cinemas. They are entirely dependent on repeat ticket sales. I think instead films will change gears from only focusing on the lowest common denominator. We hopefully will entire a rise of the indie niche flicks like what we saw in the past. I for one celebrate diversity of filmmaking and closing the door on megastars and sets with a resurgence on story and dialogue and less on costly cgi. That’s my hope at least.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:50 pm to Richleau
I think it's kind of the nature of "indie niche" films that we've always had to do a little research to find them, and it's easier now than ever to find them. And they're still being made (although everything has been slowed down in the past year). It's not like Disney made a shift from arthouse to blockbuster in order to jump on a trend.
But the Marvel properties have been making money across various mediums since the early 1960's. The A-list DC properties go back decades further. So I don't think they're going away anytime soon. And the reason they've had staying power is that they're pretty basic SciFi action stories (and some fantasy) dressed up and given a budget. Action, SciFi, and fantasy have been staples of Hollywood since forever.
You mentioned Westerns; I'd love a resurgence of Westerns. There have actually been some good ones made in the last 10 years or so, and I'm able to find them because the faddish blockbusters pay for those streaming services that carry the movies I want to watch.
But the Marvel properties have been making money across various mediums since the early 1960's. The A-list DC properties go back decades further. So I don't think they're going away anytime soon. And the reason they've had staying power is that they're pretty basic SciFi action stories (and some fantasy) dressed up and given a budget. Action, SciFi, and fantasy have been staples of Hollywood since forever.
You mentioned Westerns; I'd love a resurgence of Westerns. There have actually been some good ones made in the last 10 years or so, and I'm able to find them because the faddish blockbusters pay for those streaming services that carry the movies I want to watch.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:18 pm to PowerTool
I hear ya and you’re right. Streaming is the new blockbuster. It reminds me of the days of the vcr when vhs covers were integral to get customers to rent. Variety is integral. Telling new and interesting stories is integral. I understand marvel has been around since the 60s and dc since the 40s and there are stories to tell in that realm as well. I’m just not a fan of over saturation and with the death of the cinema happening before our eyes, so goes with it huge budget films intending to be seen on the silver screen. I again welcome the change and think it’s a necessary step back in the right direction.
As for westerns, there are certainly some stories left to tell. Bone Tomahawk was a neat change of pace, I highly recommend that one.
As for westerns, there are certainly some stories left to tell. Bone Tomahawk was a neat change of pace, I highly recommend that one.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:49 pm to Richleau
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Variety is integral. Telling new and interesting stories is integral.
I don't understand what this has to do with Marvel.
We have a greater variety of films being made every year than ever before, because we have more and more films from more and more places being produced. Yeah, they're not all big-budget, but as you mentioned a return to the indie, the budget shouldn't matter too you. VMarvel (and superhero movies in general) have only reached an over saturation point if they dominate your personal viewing. They're not making more marvel movies now than the big studios (and foreign studios) were making and marketing biblical epics in the 50s and 60s. Seeing 3 to 4 superhero movies a year is great for me--I enjoy the simple thrills they provide, even when they suck--but I'm also going to see many, many other films.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:30 am to Richleau
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Streaming is the new blockbuster. It reminds me of the days of the vcr when vhs covers were integral to get customers to rent.
Yeah, in high school when everything we wanted was taken at Blockbuster, we'd wander around and look for anything. One time this cover jumped out at me so we rented an old movie called "Street Fight" because it looked like a cool mix of animation and live-action.
Many years later, I read a comment on this board about the work of Ralph Bakshi. Turns out "Street Fight" was the less offensive title of one of his more controversial movies that was later considered his masterpiece. Who knew.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:42 am to Jay Are
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Marvel (and superhero movies in general) have only reached an over saturation point if they dominate your personal viewing.
If anything, superhero movies have displaced some of the popcorn action movies we (old people) used to go see in the 80's or 90's. In a lot of ways, that's a good thing. Watching another Thor or Guardians movie sounds better than the memories of spending lawnmowing money on the latest Steven Segal flic, only to experience the cringe feeling of trying to decide if I could walk out 30 minutes in even though I already payed for it.
And if some studio exec has to consider opening another Terminator reboot against a 2nd or 3rd tier Marvel title that will kill at the box office, all the better.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 7:18 am to PowerTool
I just don't understand why folks say things like "im over the Marvel films" or "the market is over saturated". if you aren't interested in them, don't watch them. it is really simple. there are tons of other genre movies that come out every year in addition to comic movies.
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