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re: Martin Scorsese lists his picks for the greatest movies of all-time
Posted on 12/16/23 at 12:31 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 12/16/23 at 12:31 pm to RollTide1987
I maybe like three Scorsese movies, but this is a good list.
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 2:02 pm to AUCom96
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I’ve never seen this movie, but for the snooty cinephiles in here, what makes 8 1/2 such a mainstay on these sorts of lists?
It was made in 1963 and is still one of the coolest movies ever made. It's influenced some of the most influential filmmakers, including Tarantino.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 3:06 pm to RollTide1987
I’ve seen probably 1/2 to 2/3 of these.
There is a decided difference between what is considered influential and what is watchable IMHO.
Best foreign film on that list is Salvatore Giulianu and that had a leg up with me because I read The Sicilian, which is treated as a midquel to Godfather 1 in which Michael Corleone is tasked to bring Giulianu back to New York with him.
As far as some of the other films go, I’m not sure why those got chosen over the directors’ other works.
Ikiru is one I have watched but didn’t really “get”. A Japanese bureaucrat is dying of cancer and decides to push through the construction of a playground through his job before he dies.
I could pull probably six Kurosawa films out of my arse better than that and they don’t necessarily have to be samurai ones. High And Low comes to mind as one where he did a contemporary Japanese take on an Ed McBain detective story.
There is a decided difference between what is considered influential and what is watchable IMHO.
Best foreign film on that list is Salvatore Giulianu and that had a leg up with me because I read The Sicilian, which is treated as a midquel to Godfather 1 in which Michael Corleone is tasked to bring Giulianu back to New York with him.
As far as some of the other films go, I’m not sure why those got chosen over the directors’ other works.
Ikiru is one I have watched but didn’t really “get”. A Japanese bureaucrat is dying of cancer and decides to push through the construction of a playground through his job before he dies.
I could pull probably six Kurosawa films out of my arse better than that and they don’t necessarily have to be samurai ones. High And Low comes to mind as one where he did a contemporary Japanese take on an Ed McBain detective story.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 7:27 pm to RollTide1987
Great picks as you would expect from Scorsese. I haven’t seen them all but have seen most of them:
2001 A Space Odyssey (Kubrick) - no problem with this pick. You can’t leave Kubrick off and this is probably his best film.
81/2 (Fellini) - Fellini is obvious but I just don’t like this film. It’s well made and has had a tremendous influence but it’s not for me.
Ashes and Diamonds (Wajda) - Haven’t seen this one.
Citizen Kane (Welles) - obvious choice and deserving. I do think it got too much praise for a while but some of that has started to lessen. Absolutely great film though.
Diary of a Country Priest (Bresson) - So good to see Bresson on this list and a fantastic film. I would have gone with Au Hasard Balthazar because it really resonated with me but absolutely nothing wrong with Diary of a Country Priest.
Ikiru (Kurosawa) - haven’t seen it yet.
The Leopard (Visconti) - alright pick for me. Wouldn’t make my top 50.
Ordet (Dreyer) - This one’s tough. Dreyer is very deserving and so is Ordet. But to me, The Passion of Joan of Arc is on another level. Probably would have just included them both.
Paisa (Rossellini) haven’t seen this one
The Red Shoes (Powell and Pressburger) - an essential pick for a greatest of all-time list.
The River (Renoir) - great film but I just like The Rules of the Game too much to put The River above it.
Salvatore Giuliano (Rosi) also haven’t seen this one.
The Searchers (Ford) - man what a great pick. Ford is essential and this is definitely his best.
Ugetsu Monogatari (Mizoguchi) - and one more I haven’t seen.
Vertigo (Hitchcock) my all-time favorite film so a no brainer pick for me.
Great list although there are 5 I haven’t seen. Disappointed not to see any Godard films. I’m sure he likes him but didn’t have room on a top 15 list. I would have included Breathless. Probably would have also tried to find a place for Bergman’s Persona as well.
2001 A Space Odyssey (Kubrick) - no problem with this pick. You can’t leave Kubrick off and this is probably his best film.
81/2 (Fellini) - Fellini is obvious but I just don’t like this film. It’s well made and has had a tremendous influence but it’s not for me.
Ashes and Diamonds (Wajda) - Haven’t seen this one.
Citizen Kane (Welles) - obvious choice and deserving. I do think it got too much praise for a while but some of that has started to lessen. Absolutely great film though.
Diary of a Country Priest (Bresson) - So good to see Bresson on this list and a fantastic film. I would have gone with Au Hasard Balthazar because it really resonated with me but absolutely nothing wrong with Diary of a Country Priest.
Ikiru (Kurosawa) - haven’t seen it yet.
The Leopard (Visconti) - alright pick for me. Wouldn’t make my top 50.
Ordet (Dreyer) - This one’s tough. Dreyer is very deserving and so is Ordet. But to me, The Passion of Joan of Arc is on another level. Probably would have just included them both.
Paisa (Rossellini) haven’t seen this one
The Red Shoes (Powell and Pressburger) - an essential pick for a greatest of all-time list.
The River (Renoir) - great film but I just like The Rules of the Game too much to put The River above it.
Salvatore Giuliano (Rosi) also haven’t seen this one.
The Searchers (Ford) - man what a great pick. Ford is essential and this is definitely his best.
Ugetsu Monogatari (Mizoguchi) - and one more I haven’t seen.
Vertigo (Hitchcock) my all-time favorite film so a no brainer pick for me.
Great list although there are 5 I haven’t seen. Disappointed not to see any Godard films. I’m sure he likes him but didn’t have room on a top 15 list. I would have included Breathless. Probably would have also tried to find a place for Bergman’s Persona as well.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 8:18 pm to RollTide1987
Its well documented he fricking loves The Searchers and it's tinged with him going to the Cinema as a kid and it influencing him to want to make movies. Its his Red Ryder BB gun.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 8:18 pm to AUCom96
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’ve never seen this movie, but for the snooty cinephiles in here, what makes 8 1/2 such a mainstay on these sorts of lists?
It isn't THAT good. But it is very much an artist's artist film.
And even more so a director's director film.
La Dolce Vita is more fun.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 8:33 pm to RollTide1987
And I think he's gone far more cinephile lately as some rebellion (his previous lists were more accessible, mainstream) after railing against current Hollywood and superhero movies as not cinema.
I don't think it's fart sniffing but an invitation to an entire generation, maybe he's saying... what you're watching right now is sort of crap and there were masters in the past who took this art form seriously. Give these films a look.
I don't think it's fart sniffing but an invitation to an entire generation, maybe he's saying... what you're watching right now is sort of crap and there were masters in the past who took this art form seriously. Give these films a look.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 8:50 pm to RollTide1987
He's a film guy that's studied all of the directors who are perceived as the best, including the foreign ones. I never liked watching foreign movies with English captions until I started streaming. I didn't start streaming things until I got Netflix around 2014 or 2015. I was already in my mid-50's then. I'll never have the time to stream all of the great directors' movies, much less read about why people think they are great. Don't really care to either. Take it for what it is.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:04 pm to teke184
quote:You guys that have seen this, liked it and told us why, have me interested in it. Found a place to stream it.
Best foreign film on that list is Salvatore Giulianu and that had a leg up with me because I read The Sicilian, which is treated as a midquel to Godfather 1 in which Michael Corleone is tasked to bring Giulianu back to New York with him.
THE CRITERION COLLECTION
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:32 pm to chinese58
Never heard of half of them but including The Searchers makes me smile.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:38 pm to RollTide1987
No Smokey & the Bandit = bs list
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:41 pm to chinese58
Yeah, a lot of what is on that list is stuff that was released at one point by Criterion.
Hence why I have seen an inordinate number of films from the list, though I found Salvatore Giulianu to be somewhat approachable as opposed to some of these which are pretty “foreign” even past the language.
Hence why I have seen an inordinate number of films from the list, though I found Salvatore Giulianu to be somewhat approachable as opposed to some of these which are pretty “foreign” even past the language.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:41 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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That whole thing is a director fart-sniffing list.
Thought the same thing.
Film 102 final exam answers.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:47 pm to Philzilla2k
I look at that list by him the same way I look at the original AFI 100 list…
Not everything on there I will agree with but there’s some merit in a lot of what is on there. And if you start watching some of what is on there, you may end up finding out how much you love one or more of those films.
I knew about Network for the whole “I’m mad as hell” meme before I watched it while I was on an AFI kick. Turned out to be one of my favorite movies ever between strong performances and the fact that Paddy Chayefsky took the piss out of TV and the corporate world in the process.
Not everything on there I will agree with but there’s some merit in a lot of what is on there. And if you start watching some of what is on there, you may end up finding out how much you love one or more of those films.
I knew about Network for the whole “I’m mad as hell” meme before I watched it while I was on an AFI kick. Turned out to be one of my favorite movies ever between strong performances and the fact that Paddy Chayefsky took the piss out of TV and the corporate world in the process.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:49 pm to RollTide1987
I love 2001 to death but I know it’s not for everyone. Haven’t seen Vertigo in forever but I recently picked up the 4k
8 1/2 is still on my watch list.
8 1/2 is still on my watch list.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:56 pm to Freauxzen
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One thing is for sure - he did not try to please anybody
Almost every single one is on most lists of the "greatest films of all time". Hell, almost every single one of them is part of the criterion collection.
Based on what we know about scorsese's tastes, this is basically as chalk as it could be.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:30 am to RollTide1987
Visconti couldn’t direct a YouTube short. What kind of rookie list is this?
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:35 am to Saint Alfonzo
Sorry, my eyes were wide shut.
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 10:37 am
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:51 am to RollTide1987
Bunch of pretentious bullshite
Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:03 pm to RollTide1987
My primary issue is that he picks one movie made in the last 60 years, and even that is a movie made in 1968.
I don’t think anyone actually believes the best movies of all time were made in the first three decades of movies having dialogue and that nothing from the last 50 years can compare to that.
I don’t think anyone actually believes the best movies of all time were made in the first three decades of movies having dialogue and that nothing from the last 50 years can compare to that.
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