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re: MAJOR Terminator Dark Fate Leaks SPOILERS

Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:53 pm to
Go back and watch the trailer. They gave away Sam W’s character as being a cyborg.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 2:01 pm to
The trailer might’ve spoiled it but I don’t know if that’s a big factor for most people. I don’t even remember the trailer.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 2:06 pm to
I mean, I certainly can’t speak for everyone, but it’s been mentioned in articles as one of the most spoiled trailers ever. Genysis also fricked up there for sure.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Salvation was not ruined in the trailer. Genisys was spoiled in the trailer.


The only thing I didn’t know would happen based on that trailer is a CGI Arnold showing up.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 2:53 pm to
Oh ok, I didn’t remember any of that but I believe you. Guess that explains why I like it but no one on this board does.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 3:24 pm to
Sam Worthington being a terminator was never this big guarded secret. It was always a known thing for the audiences.

John Connor being revealed as a Terminator in the Genisys trailer was a huge spoiler. That’s a franchise altering level reveal.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 3:27 pm to
I mean, I'm not comparing spoilers.

But you thinking the Terminator Salvation trailer wasn't spoiling, well, you're in the minority on that one.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 3:39 pm to
Pretty sure that’s just you. They showed him as a cyborg in the first trailer and the opening of the movie made it clear he was a terminator.

The last trailer of Genisys dropped the biggest spoiler in the franchise’s history.

Here’s the first trailer for Salvation having John Conner telling you that Skynet is taking human prisoners and that Skynet is replicating human tissue and oh look, they tell you Marcus Wright is the prototype for Arnold’s terminator from the first two movies. Again, not a spoiler.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 4:14 pm to
No, it's not just me. First of all, one other person already agreed with me in this thread. Second:

12 Spoiler-Ridden Movie Trailers & One Useful Screenwriting Lesson

Both Genisys and Salvation mentioned.

25 Movie Trailers That Gave Away Too Much

Both Genisys and Salvation mentioned.

Spoiler alert! 9 movie trailers that completely give away the ending, from Batman to GoldenEye to Free Willy

Both Genisys and Salvation mentioned.

Ten Movie Trailers That Spoil Their Movie

Just Salvation mentioned here. Might be an older one.

Which movie was ruined by the trailer?

Just Salvation mentioned here. Might be an older one.

And again, I'm not comparing spoilers. I HEAVILY agreed with you that Genisys was spoiled as well. I get that you like Salvation. I get that you think the trailer didn't spoil what should have been a major plot twist. But don't act like everyone agrees with you. That's kind of crazy.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 4:26 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 5:21 pm to
That’s a pretty weak list of spoilers. The audience is aware from the beginning of the movie that Marcus is not fully human from the beginning of the movie even if you didn’t watch the trailer. It was never some huge shock or plot twist.


And where are you getting that I liked Salvation? You’re the one who said you liked it, not me.

And Marcus being the (or one of the) prototypes for the original Terminators isn’t a huge plot twist. If you watched any of the prior movies you knew the machines had to eventually use human tissue for the machines. The biggest plot point of Salvation was left out of trailer. What would have been the biggest plot point in the series up until that point was left out of the movie altogether.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 5:26 pm to
When was the last time you saw Salvation?

We had no idea who or what Sam's character was until he stepped on the mine somewhere in the middle of the movie. We didn't know where he came from or what he was. The trailer made it pretty clear tho.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10219 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 5:40 pm to
Spoiler is fake. They just took everyone worse fears and then put it all into the plot. Those guys who post it also have crappy track record.

Now if it came from Free Folk I might believe it more.

John Conner= JC = Jesus Christ, savior.

Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80366 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

John Conner= JC = Jesus Christ, savior.




Judging from the trailer this will be the 3rd film in a row to not back this up.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19969 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:26 pm to
I can’t believe two people are arguing about the trailers for two of the worst movies I’ve ever seen
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74261 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:21 pm to
Salvation was a movie everyone wanted. Though rather than tell the story we want to see, they shoe horned a comic story in.
That wasn't even supposed to be in that timeline.

(Have to look it up, but the terminator who didn't know it was a terminator story, the book also had a T800 with devil horns.)

I can't stand how they ruined that story.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:33 pm to
They literally show him being a death row inmate and signing his body away before his execution in the first 20 or so minutes of the movie. I literally posted the first trailer of the movie that establishes him as a cyborg.

The audience knew he was all along, hell if you had not seen the trailer at all and had any deductive reasoning skills at all, you would have figured it pretty early on anyways. That wasn’t even the biggest reveal of the movie in relation to his character anyways. His mission being to deliver John Conner into Skynet’s trap was the bigger twist.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 10:17 pm to
No. There was mystery behind his character. I just watched it today. The audience should be wondering who he is and what he’s about. The trailer gives the entire thing away. They also tell you how him and John Conner join forces. The trailer spoiled everything other than cgi Arnold. Are you trolling?

It almost tells the entire story
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 10:20 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

Maybe it will come down to execution.

Nah. You kill one of them as an example and there will be three other Hollywood jackasses ready to take his place and "make it better".
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 10:54 pm to
If this one fails, I really feel like they’ll be done with Terminator for a LONG time. Unless Cameron wants to direct one.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:11 pm to
Terminator without Arnold will never work, ever. Hell they can't even make it work with him anymore.

He alone is the reason Genisys did modest international box office to make up for how horribly it bombed here. Asians still love Arnold (it did it's numbers in China, Japan, and South Korea)

There are just some IPs inexorably linked to certain characters/cast and Terminator is forever and always Arnold.
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