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re: Mad Men Series Finale - "Person to Person"
Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:40 am to STLhog
Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:40 am to STLhog
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why does he have to be Don to do the ad?
Obviously in name he has to just for contract/not getting shaked down by the Feds for stealing an identity deal. But I like to believe he went back as Dick in spirit. That he was finally done with the versus and embraced the attributes of both that make him the person that he is at the end of the day. Good and bad.
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:41 am to BluegrassBelle
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Obviously in name he has to just for contract/not getting shaked down by the Feds for stealing an identity deal. But I like to believe he went back as Dick in spirit. That he was finally done with the versus and embraced the attributes of both that make him the person that he is at the end of the day. Good and bad.
100% agree. I don't think the name matters, he finally let go of the battle.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:53 am to STLhog
My interpretation slightly differs. If Don truly reached his Zen Moment, he wouldn't have insulted it by selling it out for a Coke commercial. I think he just had his Best Idea Ever and he was on a plane to NYC as soon as he could get a ride out of there.
Artists get their inspiration from the strangest places. And they often immerse themselves in the culture so that they can take it back with them.
Artists get their inspiration from the strangest places. And they often immerse themselves in the culture so that they can take it back with them.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:02 am to lsutigers1992
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My interpretation slightly differs. If Don truly reached his Zen Moment, he wouldn't have insulted it by selling it out for a Coke commercial
I agree. I don't really think it "changed" him necessarily. I think it just eased the tension that the two identities had on him.
I think that was blatantly clear in the therapy session.
Don't think anyone is denying Don/Dick is and always will be an ad man. I think most are saying he finally was able to let go of some of the shite that constantly weighted him down all his life.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:09 am to FairhopeTider
quote:Yep ..I was WTF about him meditating and then..I started laughing my azz off !!
Amazing how playing that one commercial changes everything
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:18 am to lsutigers1992
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My interpretation slightly differs. If Don truly reached his Zen Moment, he wouldn't have insulted it by selling it out for a Coke commercial. I think he just had his Best Idea Ever and he was on a plane to NYC as soon as he could get a ride out of there.
Artists get their inspiration from the strangest places. And they often immerse themselves in the culture so that they can take it back with them.
I know the Hilltop ad is supposed to be viewed through a with-20-20-hindsight prism of utmost cynicism, but did anyone else feel a big soft spot when they heard that song? Yeah, yeah, I know it's just peddling sugared water with gas in it, but is there NO authenticity to what the ad purported to capture?
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:20 am to beatbammer
quote:The out of left field scene where Joan, not really a drug user, does COKE off her fingernail in the last show...now makes more sense. He was setting us up all the while for the ending.
Don FIXED A GODDAM COCA COLA MACHINE,
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:21 am to Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:27 am to OlGrandad
Makes you wonder what the Pepsi people were thinking last night.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:27 am to Big Scrub TX
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I know the Hilltop ad is supposed to be viewed through a with-20-20-hindsight prism of utmost cynicism, but did anyone else feel a big soft spot when they heard that song? Yeah, yeah, I know it's just peddling sugared water with gas in it, but is there NO authenticity to what the ad purported to capture?
The text is open for interpretation, obviously. But I laughed my arse off in a good way and I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:29 am to lsutigers1992
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The text is open for interpretation, obviously. But I laughed my arse off in a good way and I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Oh yeah, I loved it. I'm just asking beyond that - perhaps it's just personal nostalgia, but Coke and their ad men aren't necessarily evil like we are supposed to just casually believe now.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:32 am to FairhopeTider
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Makes you wonder what the Pepsi people were thinking last night.
They're on the phone with the Halt and Catch Fire people, so they can work Pepsi's 80's dominance into this season.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:33 am to Big Scrub TX
"Evil" isn't the right word I don't think they're evil.
"Shameless" is the word I'd use.
"Shameless" is the word I'd use.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:42 am to Big Scrub TX
I think I speak for everyone when I say thank goodness not one second of the finale was devoted to Diana.
Still wish there was some comeuppance for Henry Francis. I felt like Don never quite put him in his place.
Still wish there was some comeuppance for Henry Francis. I felt like Don never quite put him in his place.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:57 am to STLhog
Another observation. In the end, we learn what Mad Men was really about: ourselves.
Each and everyone of us is a mysterious dichotomy of who we know ourselves to truly be and who we try and "sell" ourselves to be to others. In the end, every character went through Don's struggle.
Pete. The honest likable kid trying to sell himself as Don Draper. Peggy, Draper's true protege', trying to sell herself as someone who needed no one. Joan, who sold herself as a not wanting to be desired accepts the challenge of setting off on her own to be desired in business. Betty, who sold herself as not being her mother, accepted her mother's fate.
Sally sold herself as the irresponsible child, she accepts herself as both her parents assuming the role of parent. And of course Don, who sold himself as desirable, accepts whatever comes his way...the "new" him.
We are all Don Draper. All Mad Men, selling ourselves and until we accept who we really are, we'll go mad.
Each and everyone of us is a mysterious dichotomy of who we know ourselves to truly be and who we try and "sell" ourselves to be to others. In the end, every character went through Don's struggle.
Pete. The honest likable kid trying to sell himself as Don Draper. Peggy, Draper's true protege', trying to sell herself as someone who needed no one. Joan, who sold herself as a not wanting to be desired accepts the challenge of setting off on her own to be desired in business. Betty, who sold herself as not being her mother, accepted her mother's fate.
Sally sold herself as the irresponsible child, she accepts herself as both her parents assuming the role of parent. And of course Don, who sold himself as desirable, accepts whatever comes his way...the "new" him.
We are all Don Draper. All Mad Men, selling ourselves and until we accept who we really are, we'll go mad.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 12:02 pm to theunknownknight
Sally is already a better mom than Betty.
Though her first instinct with the boys is to lie to them. That's understandable.
Though her first instinct with the boys is to lie to them. That's understandable.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 12:05 pm to FairhopeTider
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I felt like Don never quite put him in his place.
You are forgetting about Don nailing Betty at the summer camp?
True, Henry didn't know about it, but Don and Betty did.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 12:08 pm to FairhopeTider
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Still wish there was some comeuppance for Henry Francis. I felt like Don never quite put him in his place.
For what? He had his weaknesses, but he really loved Betty and treated her well. Better than Don ever did.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 12:11 pm to N2cars
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You are forgetting about Don nailing Betty at the summer camp?
True, Henry didn't know about it, but Don and Betty did.
Yep and that Betty dagger referring to Megan.
“That poor girl. She doesn’t know that loving you is the worst way to get to you,”
Posted on 5/18/15 at 12:12 pm to STLhog
quote:Wouldn't really call this a dagger. It's the truth about dealing with Don.
“That poor girl. She doesn’t know that loving you is the worst way to get to you,”
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