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re: Mad Men Season 7 Episode 7 "Waterloo" Midseason Finale
Posted on 5/25/14 at 10:38 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 5/25/14 at 10:38 pm to Fewer Kilometers
But we didn't get to see Lou get firehosed out of Don's office.
I was looking forward to that.
I was looking forward to that.
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Posted on 5/25/14 at 10:50 pm to Fewer Kilometers
For a second there I was afraid the show was about to jump the shark and end with Don in a padded room wearing a straitjacket 
RIP Bert
My favorite Bert scene
RIP Bert
My favorite Bert scene
Posted on 5/25/14 at 10:54 pm to Fewer Kilometers
The Peggy Scene was really good tonight. She was channeling her inner Don. What a great show, I'm pissed about waiting a year but frick it, this is great television. Great.
Posted on 5/25/14 at 11:37 pm to vuvuzela
That was phenomenal to watch.
Posted on 5/25/14 at 11:41 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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That was a huge thank you to Robert Morse, and appropriate. Good for Weiner for ending on that awesome note.
Absolutely. Peggy having her carousel moment was awesome as well. Loved when Don dropped the "I've overheard" when she mentioned he had never seen her present before.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 12:32 am to BluegrassBelle
I love how much Pete is pro-Don
Posted on 5/26/14 at 12:36 am to tigerfan88
California Pete has been hilarious.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 12:44 am to BluegrassBelle
Weird how he's probably a top 3 likable character right now.
Also, how worthless are the Betty scenes? Those writers must hate having to put together those scenes. "Smoke cigarette-act like child-talk shite with or about some other woman-annoy children."
Also, how worthless are the Betty scenes? Those writers must hate having to put together those scenes. "Smoke cigarette-act like child-talk shite with or about some other woman-annoy children."
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 12:45 am
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:46 am to JBeam
Just to make sure I fully comprehended the Harry Crane situation...he gets screwed because he hadn't officially signed as a partner before the acquisition, right?
Anyone else thinks the series ends with Harry going on a shooting rampage at Sterling Cooper?
Anyone else thinks the series ends with Harry going on a shooting rampage at Sterling Cooper?
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:11 am to craigbiggio
Yep - Harry Crane just just royally f'ed up the butt. Roger took Bert's final conversation to heart; "You're not a leader, Cutler is a leader but he's not on MY team".
I'm so aggravated that we have to wait a year for the back seven episodes.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 4:02 am to BamaChick
A couple of things I noticed about tonight's episode: This actually isn't the first time Don's had visions in the office about someone who died. Back in Season 5 (I think), he started seeing visions of his half brother who committed suicide, just before Lane hung himself.
Also, Roger mentioned to Don that the last thing he said to Bert was a song lyric (even though it was a different Irving Berlin song). That could have triggered Don when Roger says "Bertram Cooper" in the background just before the song and dance.
As for the final song, I think opens some interesting possibilities. In season 3, "Bye, Bye Birdie" foreshadowed Betty leaving Don. In the last few episodes, Joan and Pete might especially learn that having large sums of money doesn't necessarily solve their problems...
I'm not sure what to think about Don, though. For the first couple of seasons, he took great pride in not having a contract, because of the freedom the arrangement gave him. In fact, Bert was the one who forced his hand to finally sign a contract (basically through blackmail). Aside from the delayed emotions Don could be feeling after making it back into the agency, one could also read Don's emotional response to Bert's song as a recognition that he's trapped for at least the next five years.
One last thing - I noticed that Don was stopped by Bert right in front of Lou's office.
Also, Roger mentioned to Don that the last thing he said to Bert was a song lyric (even though it was a different Irving Berlin song). That could have triggered Don when Roger says "Bertram Cooper" in the background just before the song and dance.
As for the final song, I think opens some interesting possibilities. In season 3, "Bye, Bye Birdie" foreshadowed Betty leaving Don. In the last few episodes, Joan and Pete might especially learn that having large sums of money doesn't necessarily solve their problems...
I'm not sure what to think about Don, though. For the first couple of seasons, he took great pride in not having a contract, because of the freedom the arrangement gave him. In fact, Bert was the one who forced his hand to finally sign a contract (basically through blackmail). Aside from the delayed emotions Don could be feeling after making it back into the agency, one could also read Don's emotional response to Bert's song as a recognition that he's trapped for at least the next five years.
One last thing - I noticed that Don was stopped by Bert right in front of Lou's office.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 4:31 am
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:43 am to MikeyFL
When I watched the episode last night, my first reaction to the song was that the main lyrics - the best things in life are free - hold some meaning for Don. After doing a little reading, I now understand the song has another meaning. Robert Morse was a big name on Broadway years ago. One of his biggest success was "How to Succeed Without Even Trying". If I'm not mistaken, the song was from that play.
I'm glad Megan is done, but I'm bummed that Bert is out. Maybe he'll reappear in a flashback or two in the last 7 episodes.
I'm glad Megan is done, but I'm bummed that Bert is out. Maybe he'll reappear in a flashback or two in the last 7 episodes.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:36 am to NIH
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Weird how he's probably a top 3 likable character right now.
I agree. Me and my wife have been laughing our asses off at Pete and he had some great lines in tonight's episode. His comment about don being prized horse flesh and then asking ted how he could be so selfish. 
Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:49 am to MikeyFL
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This actually isn't the first time Don's had visions in the office about someone who died. Back in Season 5 (I think), he started seeing visions of his half brother who committed suicide, just before Lane hung himself.
Yeah, I don't understand why many people around the internet feel the ending musical number was SUCH a departure for the show. Not only did Don have visions of Adam; he also had the very odd vision of Anna Draper with her suitcase immediately after SHE died.
Add those experiences with the countless times we've seen Don disappear back into his childhood (I remember one instance where it was a seamless transition as well as Don's kitchen became his kitchen when he grew up and the flashback occurred).
Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:55 am to SCTmo
Harry only has himself to blame. He's been there from Day One and has seen the volatility of the business and how important and profitable it is to be a partner when changes come.
He was an idiot for letting a day pass without signing on as a partner. Everyone else jumped at the chance. "I can see the future" Harry was the lone idiot who passed on the opportunity.
He was an idiot for letting a day pass without signing on as a partner. Everyone else jumped at the chance. "I can see the future" Harry was the lone idiot who passed on the opportunity.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:59 am to SCTmo
Interesting finish. I kinda agree that this whole "coup" thing is a retread, but I don't mind it with Roger leading it. Roger's pissed at Cutler and doing something about it.
Joan's a count.
Sally was aching for it.
Pete just wants straight cash, and he knows Don is the way to get that.
Harry Crane got screwed, but he'll just be happy when he makes partner.
Joan's a count.
Sally was aching for it.
Pete just wants straight cash, and he knows Don is the way to get that.
Harry Crane got screwed, but he'll just be happy when he makes partner.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:19 pm to bamafan425
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Harry Crane got screwed, but he'll just be happy when he makes partner.
He isn't going to be partner.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:22 pm to bamafan425
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Harry Crane got screwed, but he'll just be happy when he makes partner.
Harry spent too much time posturing and never signed. Now he's screwed.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:30 pm to TotesMcGotes
Best first half since Season 4. Last year and the year before the first half crept and dragged...really enjoyed the progression and revelations.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:31 pm to Asgard Device
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He isn't going to be partner.
Exactly. Harry Crane is going to be a salaried employee. Just like he has always been.
So are Don, Pete, Ted, and Roger.
No one else from SCP will get to be a partner unless they are approved by the McCann/Erickson board.
M/E owns 51% of SCP now. SCP is a subsidiary of M/E and they wanted 5 year contracts from "the guys who got Chevy" - Roger, Pete, Don, and Ted. That's why they had to get Ted onboard or the deal wouldn't happen.
Harry dicked around for at least a month (going on the time markers in the episodes) and was trying to get more shares of SCP. Don told him, "No negotiating. Just sign it."
If Harry had listened, Harry would have been a partner and made a million or so dollars.
As it stands now, Harry has no partnership, no money, and no power.
Hell, if M/E has a better media buying dept. and their own computers, Harry could be out of a job.
So could Cutler and Joan if M/E doesn't want them to sign a contract and want them to stay on board.
There are no more partners at SCP - the M/E partners are now their board of directors and Roger is the President of SCP and he reports to the M/E board. That's why Roger did this - to eliminate Cutler's control.
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