re: LOST "Across the Sea" S6.E15 (Jacob/MIB Centric)

I've only been following these threads since March, so how does this rank among LOST fan melt downs?

biggest one ive seen on here

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I've only been following these threads since March, so how does this rank among LOST fan melt downs?

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This has easily been the worst since I've been around. With episodes like "Recon" and especially "What Kate Does", there weren't high expectations, so we mostly let those crappy episodes slide. But there was "Ab Aeterno" expectations going into this episode, and it turned out to be the worst episode of the season. I'm going to rewatch this in about an hour and just dissect it scene by scene on why this episode was terrible.

i am cool with the episode... slept on it and its not really that bad


i have a feeling that we will have an explanation to why MIB cant leave, why he is bad, why jacob is good, and a few other things in the next week.

this episode was in a good spot. it is meant to break away from the original timeline just to give a bit of background on MIB and Jacob.

The light is nothing more than some sort of energy and electromagnetism. Dharma obviously finds it a source of power so I am cool with that.

Its way back in the past, so the magical explanation is cool with me. They don't have computers and complicated mathematics like Faraday in order to explain what it is, so its just magic.

We know its special, Faraday has said that, Dharma has said that.

The episode was a lot better after sleeping on it.




In response to Tiger Ryno...

Welliver and Pelligrino were very good actors last night (although Jacob was kind of a whiny rich kid douche)

The kids however were not good actors... the kid playing MIB was absolutely horrible, but i blame that on the fact that no kids are really great actors.

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Even the most passionate LOST fans seem disillusioned.

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It bugs me because it truly seems as though it was rushed along, no thought was put into it and they just threw some crap out there. They've spent years and years developing this intricate story and to drop this turd at the end almost seems as though it was a betrayal to the many fans out there. If you're going to do something half-arse, just dont do it at all

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and just dissect it scene by scene on why this episode was terrible.

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absolutely 100% what I am trying to avoid doing

.....because I sooooo could

Just finished watching it and read through a lot of this thread, and I think the episode is better (at the very least not as bad) upon reflection. Some thoughts.

My opinion while watching it was that mom had some smokie in her. Maybe she has learned how to use the "light" inside her, and I guess that's how she (and Jacob) are able to heal and do other things such as grant eternal life/agelessness. That's if you're looking for a further explanation, which I'm not.

I had the Adam & Even thing spoiled for me, so that packed less of a punch. There was also no need whatsoever to include the Jack/Kate discovery in the caves. Obvious, hit-you-over-the-head-with-the-answer moments have never worked for this show.

Unlike some, I don't need anything else about the statue/origins of the Others. Jacob tried to create a society with "good" people, bringing them to the island. At some point over the course of 2000 years they built some giant-arse buildings. Jacob decided to move into one of them. I'm cool with it.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but it seemed clear to me that the Temple was built on top of the light-cave.

I'm OK with the light explanation. The light is the EM energy or whatever. It's obviously not all gone b/c there is still some in the pocket behind the wheel and the Swan site.

MIB's smokie-ness is obviously an "unpredictable" side effect of going into the light-cave (just as Desmond experienced time-jumping abilities as a result of the failsafe detonation). But it sounds like some people are saying that MIB is completely dead, and that the smoke monster is an entirely different entity, originating from the light-cave. Maybe I read it wrong, idk. Anyway, MIB=smokie. Just to steer us back on course, people.

I think I may have been less upset with the episode had I not been reading these threads where you eventually convince yourself you need to know everything, and if you don't get it now youw gonna be reawy reawy huwwwt.

Here's to an epic next week and a half!

This was pretty lame. Seems like the only thing that could save it is if somehow time travel were involved. If people were able to travel/see into the future to see how some more advanced people could develop the wheel, that could explain how he knows what he knows. Otherwise, it's weak.

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I'm going to rewatch this in about an hour and just dissect it scene by scene on why this episode was terrible.

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You could do that with a lot of LOST episodes FWIW. There have been several, what I would call "perfect," episodes. Then there are some in between and some that are terrible. This one wasn't terrible for me, more of an in-betweener. But I think it's because my expectations were no where near what you guys who hated it were. Also, why would you want to relive your agony?

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I had the Adam & Even thing spoiled for me, so that packed less of a punch.

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It was never spoiled for me and it had no punch so don't worry about it.