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re: LOST "Ab Aeterno" S6.E9 (Richard-centric)

Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:27 pm to
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this thread is beyond retarded. so much over analyzing going on it's not even funny anymore.



Seriously, Lost may be complex, but people try to make it so complex that you need a PHD in philosophy to understand it. The end of the show will be simple, not mind-numbingly complex. Ab Aeterno is a prime example of simple answers usually being correct.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:29 pm to
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this thread is beyond retarded. so much over analyzing going on it's not even funny anymore.


Much of this thread's discussion centers around clarification of older episodes based upon clearer answers.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:29 pm to
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If Jacob can bring people to the Island... would it be wrong to assume he can send them elsewhere as well?



Tom seemed to go pretty quickly to and from the Island to make sure Michael got on the freighter, so yeah I think the other mode of transportation off the Island is pretty quick and instantaneous.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:31 pm to
Jacob dropped a bomb shell with his explanation of the island, and people are basically saying he's lieing "just because"

I am just chalking it up to people being bored at work with nothing else to do but to think of shite that logically just doesn't fit or make sense.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:33 pm to
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Jacob dropped a bomb shell with his explanation of the island, and people are basically saying he's lieing "just because"
If someone said that I must have missed it. That is pretty ridiculous.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:34 pm to
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Jacob dropped a bomb shell with his explanation of the island, and people are basically saying he's lieing "just because"



Yeah, I don't think Jacob has lied ever. He's cryptic to be sure, but he's not going to lie to you. MIB has done nothing but lie for 5 straight seasons, and while he may be more honest now, he's certainly lying about a lot of stuff.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:34 pm to
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Much of this thread's discussion centers around clarification of older episodes based upon clearer answers.


if you say so

you have had some solid posts along with oml, but for the most part it's a bunch of nonsense.

Posted by TotallyTigers
Champagnionship
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:34 pm to
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Oooh good question. Did they not know that our Losties were brought to the island and included some future candidates? It seems like if they knew that some of them were candidates, they wouldn't have had such an antisocial/hostile attitude towards them.



The Others didn't know that Jack, Hurley, Sayid, etc. were candidates until the beginning of this season when Dogan received Jacob's list via Hurley and the guitar case.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:37 pm to
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Jacob dropped a bomb shell with his explanation of the island, and people are basically saying he's lieing "just because"


I think what Jacob said was true, it just makes him either:

1. An Idiot
2. Partially Evil / Uncaring
3. Or someone who has yet to explain his true motivations
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:39 pm to
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If someone said that I must have missed it. That is pretty ridiculous.


you missed all of the post about how it's just a game between mib and jacob and that it doesn't involve good or evil? for frick's sake, the entire premise of the show is pointing to that - ben being forgiven instantly despite his terrible history, jack finally starting to have "faith" and jacob's analogy of the wine glass.

this thread is littered with people trying to disprove that simply because it's not what they want to see.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:49 pm to
I think this is more simple then people want to believe

ive seen some people not on this thread but in other places that say MIB is good and Jacob is evil.

I think its pretty clear what the case is

Jacob is good (he where's white doesn't get involved in violence that much (richard fight doesn't count he was defending himself didn't kill richard)

MIB is evil (he where's black, kill people like its part of his job, clearly manipulates people to get him to do what he needs done, like richard ben and others)

Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:50 pm to
Your first statement was...

quote:

Jacob dropped a bomb shell with his explanation of the island, and people are basically saying he's lieing "just because"


Then I say I must have missed that and you reply...

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you missed all of the post about how it's just a game between mib and jacob and that it doesn't involve good or evil?


"Just because" is not the same as "it's a game between MIB and Jacob." I honestly don't remember seeing anyone who said it was a game saying that it didn't have anything to do with good vs. evil. The fact is that it being a "game" and it being about "good and evil" are NOT mutually exclusive. Both could be true at this point and Jacob still wouldn't be lying.

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:59 pm to
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you missed all of the post about how it's just a game between mib and jacob and that it doesn't involve good or evil? for frick's sake, the entire premise of the show is pointing to that - ben being forgiven instantly despite his terrible history, jack finally starting to have "faith" and jacob's analogy of the wine glass.

this thread is littered with people trying to disprove that simply because it's not what they want to see.


You do realize you're retarded, right?

You could at least try to understand what I was saying before you completely bastardize the theory.

Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 3/25/10 at 2:27 pm to
Luke Ch. 4 verse 23: "Physician heal thyself."
This post was edited on 3/25/10 at 2:29 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 2:48 pm to
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Luke Ch. 4 verse 23: "Physician heal thyself."


So Jack should have removed his own appendix
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 3/25/10 at 2:50 pm to


I must admit. I love their little easter eggs.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 3/25/10 at 2:58 pm to
i wasn't bashing your theory...i actually liked it though i don't think it's going to turn out that way.

i'm just saying that people are taking things that have no significance whatsoever and trying to spin them in all sorts of different directions. i didn't say that you were one of them.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49397 posts
Posted on 3/25/10 at 3:02 pm to
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i wasn't bashing your theory..


No, you just completely miscited it.

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i didn't say that you were one of them.


I've been the largest proponent of the game theory. You post specifically cited the game theory.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14726 posts
Posted on 3/25/10 at 3:05 pm to
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you missed all of the post about how it's just a game between mib and jacob and that it doesn't involve good or evil? for frick's sake, the entire premise of the show is pointing to that - ben being forgiven instantly despite his terrible history, jack finally starting to have "faith" and jacob's analogy of the wine glass.

this thread is littered with people trying to disprove that simply because it's not what they want to see.



Well when you have a man(Jacob) who brings people to an Island in which many of them die and the only known reason is to prove a point.. you will sometimes be labeled as a bad guy.

Which begs the question.. Does Jacob need these people to come to the Island to help him keep MIB from escaping? If not then why does he do it? other than for his own satisifaction to try and prove an "evil" man wrong.. Whats the Point?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60916 posts
Posted on 3/25/10 at 3:07 pm to
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If not then why does he do it? other than for his own satisifaction to try and prove an "evil" man wrong.. Whats the Point?


This is why I posted the Jacob "Trilemma"

He is either:

1. An Idiot
2. Uncaring
3. Someone who has not fully revealed his true motivation
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