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Posted on 3/25/10 at 11:27 am to CE Tiger
i stand corrected but this wasn't a candidate list
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You're right. But all the names are now candidates. But I have a question. Do you remember when Sayid wanted to come along and Hurley said " only those on the list."? So Sayid is a candidate, but not a main candidate? Or do these two incidents have anything to do with each other?
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You're right. But all the names are now candidates. But I have a question. Do you remember when Sayid wanted to come along and Hurley said " only those on the list."? So Sayid is a candidate, but not a main candidate? Or do these two incidents have anything to do with each other?
Posted on 3/25/10 at 11:27 am to BhamTigah
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Who were the first groups of Losties who the others kidnapped? Were these just people who they wanted to join them as others?
Candidates to replace Jacob and candidates to become others?
Based on season 1, Jacob brings people to the island and lets them decide for themselves whether to choose a second chance at redemption. Those who don't are killed by the MIB or each other. Those who do, are chosen, and put on a list to stay and prove the MIB wrong. As this keeps occurring, Jacob's candidates are continually brought in, manipulated, and killed off by the MIB. Jacob knows this, so he needed a specific set of candidates to break the cycle since he knew that the more people he brought to the island, the chances of the MIB escaping increased.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 11:28 am to tuck
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Are we sure Richard knew who the candidates were? The only person I know for sure who knew was Ilana because he gave her a list and told her to protect them. Otherwise I can't remember Richard ever coming out and saying who or who was not a candidate. He might have, I just can't remember it.
Richard actually seemed to know nothing about 'candidates' when talking to MIB/Locke
mib & richard
Posted on 3/25/10 at 12:42 pm to alumnus2000
quote:Wow, yeah that pretty much settles it. He was clueless. If he didn't know, Ben didn't either.
Richard actually seemed to know nothing about 'candidates' when talking to MIB/Locke
mib & richard
I like how the MIB gave him water....again.
BTW, who does everyone think that boy was in that episode? MIB as a young boy? Jacob as a young boy?
Posted on 3/25/10 at 12:48 pm to tuck
I'm still confused about the relationship between widmore and ben. When ben says he changed the rules and then visited him at his flat...he says you know you can't kill me....I'm guessing maybe ben and widmore are mib and Jacob recarnated? Or maybe widmore is a canidate named......Wallace.... 
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:00 pm to darbour21
quote:I take it that they were in a struggle to see who would be the "leader" of the "others." Widmore broke some rules back in the day and he was banished from the island. Widmore has been trying ever since then to get back to the island.
I'm still confused about the relationship between widmore and ben. When ben says he changed the rules and then visited him at his flat...he says you know you can't kill me....I'm guessing maybe ben and widmore are mib and Jacob recarnated? Or maybe widmore is a canidate named......Wallace....
With that back drop I'm guessing Ben and Widmore could "compete" to see who ends up as the leader of the others within a certain set of rules (which we don't know). After Keamy shoots Alex, we found out that Widmore broke a rule (or at least Ben thought he broke a rule). At that point, Ben took off the gloves and was going to kill Penny to get back at him. I still have no idea what rule he broke because it isn't clear other than what happened. Could it be you can't kill anyone? You can't kill the leader's family? I really don't know.
I think another rule might be that Ben and Widmore can't kill each other if they want to remain "competitors" for the island. This part is very interesting because neither can Jacob and MIB.
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:02 pm to tuck
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Christian seeing Shannon
You mean Claire?
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Who is manipulating dreams? That might be insignificant in the grand scheme of things but it seems pretty relevant since it causes action on the part of the character, especially the Horace dream.
It depends on the dream. I think that MIB and Jacob have equal influence over dreams. Most of the dreams though seem to be focusing on MIB's goals.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:03 pm to tuck
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Are we sure Richard knew who the candidates were? The only person I know for sure who knew was Ilana because he gave her a list and told her to protect them. Otherwise I can't remember Richard ever coming out and saying who or who was not a candidate. He might have, I just can't remember it.
Actually MIB made a point on saying that Richard didn't know about the Candidates.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:04 pm to OMLandshark
quote:When he saw Shannon die.
You mean Claire?
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:05 pm to Antonio Moss
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He didn't go back in time.
Locke came into their camp in the 1950s and told them he was destined to be their leader. He also gave Richard a compass and told him the year he was born.
Richard left the island five years after John's birth to find him.
Richard has also been off the island to recruit Juliet.
I'm not sure I'm remembering this correctly, but wasn't he also standing outside the delivery room when Locke was born? OML?
All this is correct. Right before Locke flashed back through time he told Richard the date he was born and where he was born. There is some other passage off the Island besides the wheel that we aren't aware of.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:09 pm to LSU2NO
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Ben knew also early on. He had a list of people for Michael to bring to Dharmaville. That was the list of candidates that Ben got from Jacob or Richard.
Just because Jacob wanted those people to be part of the Others doesn't mean he thought they would be good replacements for when he was killed. I doubt that most of those people were candidates. Eko's last name (Tunde) hasn't been mentioned on the wall or the lighthouse, and they tried to abduct him as well.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:09 pm to CE Tiger
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jack wasn't on that list and neither was hurley - that list WAS NOT a candidates list
And this
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:10 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Woops, I see where the confusion is. I meant Boone.
Christian seeing Shannon
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Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:13 pm to tuck
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Woops, I see where the confusion is. I meant Boone.
Yeah, I had no clue what you were talking about
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:14 pm to theunknownknight
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They have shown Smokie split and converge from three different smoke blobs (I think in season 1). So they have hinted at this already.
That isn't the same as being able to take the form of the Smoke Monster and Person at the same time.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:17 pm to OMLandshark
FYI, the thread to ban Tiger Ryno from this board until the end of Lost has now reached 2 pages on the Help board. If you are tired of him posting spoilers disguised as his own theories go there to lend your support.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:18 pm to SUB
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That isn't the same as being able to take the form of the Smoke Monster and Person at the same time.
Its better to overestimate the Monster's power than to underestimate like you are. We don't know the limits of his power, especially since its been implied he could end the world with his powers.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:22 pm to OMLandshark
this thread is beyond retarded. so much over analyzing going on it's not even funny anymore.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 1:26 pm to OMLandshark
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There is some other passage off the Island besides the wheel that we aren't aware of.
If Jacob can bring people to the Island... would it be wrong to assume he can send them elsewhere as well?
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