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re: LOST "Ab Aeterno" S6.E9 (Richard-centric)

Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:39 am to
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:39 am to
I think the loophole is that MiB is in the form of Locke and Locke was a candidate. If we assume that by the very nature of being selected as a candidate is equivalent to standing invite into the base of the statue, that is how MiB got in there.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:40 am to
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Well then I guess putting "Richard Centric" in teh title of this thread was also a spoiler.


It would've been a spoiler if he put "Richard came to the island in 1867 from the Canary Islands". in the title.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:42 am to
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Tiger Ryno


warned you yesterday about the stoning man. i dont think what you posted was a spoiler but these guys are a lynch mob
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:42 am to
Can someone please explain why Jacob is justified in putting the entire world in jeopardy to prove a philosophical point to an eternally damned being?

And before someone says it, the closest biblical example of this is Job, but God was actually in control the WHOLE time.

In Lost's case, Jacob can't control the evil off the island so he is pretty much just as culpable in destroying the world if the MIB escapes.
This post was edited on 3/24/10 at 10:44 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:46 am to
Maybe he thinks the risk of success is worth it...that if he proves to MiB what he intends to, the game will be over, the darkness will end, and man will never again be threatened.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:46 am to
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Can someone please explain why Jacob is justified is putting the entire world in jeopardy to prove a philosophical point to an eternally damned being?
I'm with you on this. I was making this point last night.

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In Lost's case, Jacob can't control the evil off the island so he is pretty much just as culpable of destroying the world as the MIB is the MIB escapes.
Exactly, hence the "reset" theory as the only "acceptable" solution to this quandary. I can't imagine them letting MiB loose and the world coming to an end (or whatever it will do) and just leaving it at that. Jacob made it sound like it would be bad news if he got off the island. Maybe the writers have some sort of solution already cooked up that doesn't involve the end of the world and a reset.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:47 am to
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Can someone please explain why Jacob is justified in putting the entire world in jeopardy to prove a philosophical point to an eternally damned being?



I'm sure it will be clarified in the MIB centric episode.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41907 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:47 am to
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Can someone please explain why Jacob is justified is putting the entire world in jeopardy to prove a philosophical point to an eternally damned being?


i think there is more to it than him just keeping the MIB on the island. At some point some deal was made and the stipulation was put into place - this is more of a friendly bet that went awry than more of just jacob's job is to keep mib in his place

Jacob describes MIB as a friend who grew tired of his company - not as the root of all evil who is my prisoner
This post was edited on 3/24/10 at 10:48 am
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:50 am to
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Jacob describes MIB as a friend who grew tired of his company


I missed this. When did Jacob say this?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60916 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:51 am to
My ONLY answer is Jacob hopes that by revealing the good in man, the MIB will come to his senses and be redeemed.

If what Jacob said last night is the truth and the "end all be all" scenerio, then Jacob is NOT good. Period.
This post was edited on 3/24/10 at 10:52 am
Posted by BamaFanInTigerland
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2009
787 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:52 am to
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We know Dogen told Sayid to stab Locke before he let him speak. MIB told Richard the same. Sayid let Locke speak, then stabbed him, so it didn't kill him.

Didn't Jacob speak to Ben before he stabbed him?


Yep & Ben didn't have the magic dagger either. Could just be something they overlooked in production since typically LOST tailors more to the casual fan that wouldn't have picked up on that. Who knows though, maybe it has something to do w/ his foot club house. Also, Ben & MIB weren't invited into the club house.

Overall I thought it was a solid episode but really no big reveals like I had hoped for.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41907 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:54 am to
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Overall I thought it was a solid episode but really no big reveals like I had hoped for.


what the frick were you watching then? the revels were big
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:55 am to
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warned you yesterday about the stoning man. i dont think what you posted was a spoiler but these guys are a lynch mob


agreed, it wasn't terrible. there are a bunch of sensitive figs in this bitch.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:55 am to
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Overall I thought it was a solid episode but really no big reveals like I had hoped for.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32729 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 11:00 am to
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agreed, it wasn't terrible. there are a bunch of sensitive figs in this bitch.


It was the second time to post a spoiler in this thread alone. I really don't care to read that shite and if he has any doubts as to whether what he posts is a spoiler or not he should at least post a potential spoiler warning. At least be courteous.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 11:03 am to
just simply skip over all of his posts then.

it makes it even worse when someone quotes one of his "spoilers".
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 11:03 am to
I don't think either MIB or Jacob is GOOD or BAD...I think theyre both just fricked up gamblers with some sort of deific connection. Jacob struck me as a liar and manipulator last night
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/24/10 at 11:03 am to
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If what Jacob said last night is the truth and the "end all be all" scenerio, then Jacob is NOT good. Period



SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!







I'm not quite following you here.
Posted by BamaFanInTigerland
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2009
787 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 11:05 am to
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what the frick were you watching then? the revels were big


New discoveries
-How the ship got inland.
-How the statue was destroyed.
-When Richard arrived.

Already knew/assumed.
-Jacob was in charge of keeping MIB on the island.
-Jacob is all about "the good in people" w/o manipulating them.
-Island is a "prison" for MIB.

What did you learn that blew you away?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 3/24/10 at 11:05 am to
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Jacob struck me as a liar and manipulator last night


wouldn't be far from the biblical jacob.

i still think Jacob represents "good" and that there's a lot more to it than simply a "game" with mib.

kinda reminds me of the book of Job in some ways.
This post was edited on 3/24/10 at 11:07 am
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