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re: LOST "Ab Aeterno" S6.E9 (Richard-centric)
Posted on 3/24/10 at 9:50 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 3/24/10 at 9:50 am to Tiger Ryno
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I'm going to be very disappointed if at the end the timetable is simply "reset."
Mee too. That angle is so played out. It sucked on 12 Monkees, its sucked on every other episode of the Twilight Zone. IT would suck badly for Lost. Its gimmicky
I can't think of a single episode of the Twilight Zone that ended in a reset (at least not of the original series).
Posted on 3/24/10 at 9:51 am to Tiger Ryno
Get the frick out of here.
I just RA'd.
I just RA'd.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 9:54 am to Decatur
We know Dogen told Sayid to stab Locke before he let him speak. MIB told Richard the same. Sayid let Locke speak, then stabbed him, so it didn't kill him.
Didn't Jacob speak to Ben before he stabbed him?
Didn't Jacob speak to Ben before he stabbed him?
Posted on 3/24/10 at 9:55 am to BhamTigah
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Didn't Jacob speak to Ben before he stabbed him?
yes i'm pretty sure he did
Posted on 3/24/10 at 9:55 am to BhamTigah
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Didn't Jacob speak to Ben before he stabbed him?
yes
Posted on 3/24/10 at 9:57 am to coachLSU
So, there must have been something else to the "you found your loophole" comment. Perhaps it had something to do with them actually being in Jacob's sanctuary in the foot.
Notice that Jacob said to Richard last night that only those he invites are allowed to enter.
Notice that Jacob said to Richard last night that only those he invites are allowed to enter.
This post was edited on 3/24/10 at 9:58 am
Posted on 3/24/10 at 9:58 am to BhamTigah
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We know Dogen told Sayid to stab Locke before he let him speak. MIB told Richard the same. Sayid let Locke speak, then stabbed him, so it didn't kill him.
Didn't Jacob speak to Ben before he stabbed him?
maybe because jacob wanted/needed to die?so he let it kill him. i'm guessing someone who grants eternal life can manage to choose to die if they want to.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 9:58 am to PortCityTiger24
I don't think telling Richard not to let Jacob speak was literal in the manner of Dogen with MIB.
I think MIB was just emphasizing that Jacob is extremely persuasive.
I think MIB was just emphasizing that Jacob is extremely persuasive.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:04 am to BhamTigah
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So, there must have been something else to the "you found your loophole" comment. Perhaps it had something to do with them actually being in Jacob's sanctuary in the foot.
Notice that Jacob said to Richard last night that only those he invites are allowed to enter.
yeah b/c didn't the "you found your loophole" comment come when ben kills him.
but it would seem that the conversation they have on the beach about how badly he (MIB) wants to kill jacob takes place first. then, the conversation they have in the jungle last night happened after. meaning MIB sent richard to kill jacob knowing he can't kill them. is that the loophole?
that would explain why jacob hangs out in the statue (if its true no one can enter without his say) otherwise if jacob hangs out in the open he would just be constantly fighting off attempts on his life by whoever MIB sends at him.
so really MIB finds the loophole when the black rock lands, not when ben stabs him.
This post was edited on 3/24/10 at 10:05 am
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:21 am to joshnorris14
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Jacob is the guardian of the island and he keeps the MIB from leaving. This is his main job. However, he wants to prove to the MIB that humans are good natured. This is his second job. So he brings people to the island to do so. However, this leaves a possibility of MIB killing Jacob by manipulating the people Jacob brings to the island. So Jacob needs a replacement for when MIB is finally able to kill him.
So Jacob is risking the fate of every living thing on the planet to prove a philosophical point to the MIB by bringing people to the island.
So...basically Jacob is an idiot.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:24 am to theunknownknight
Thanks for the warning edit Decatur. I like reading this thread, but I don't wanna read spoilers. Come on Ryno....
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:26 am to Muppet
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I think MIB was just emphasizing that Jacob is extremely persuasive.
That's how I took it as well.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:29 am to doggy dirty
How is something a spoiler when its all over the place and all it was giving was the two characters who will be the focus of the episode which everyone already knows. there are no secrets revealed in that post. y'all need to get your panties out of the wad here. serious.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:31 am to Tiger Ryno
Well I didn't read it bc I was warned, so if it was harmless, I apologize. But still, if it pissed some people off it was probably inappropriate.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:33 am to PortCityTiger24
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he didn't kill richard because he wanted to use him to kill jacob..it had nothing to do with his faith.
Correct.
Jacob and MIB are in the business of human manipulation; this is their motivation first and foremost.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:35 am to Tiger Ryno
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How is something a spoiler when its all over the place and all it was giving was the two characters who will be the focus of the episode which everyone already knows. there are no secrets revealed in that post. y'all need to get your panties out of the wad here. serious.
It's a spoiler when you reveal a major plot in a future episode.
Are you a fricking retard?
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:36 am to Tiger Ryno
You posted a spoiler any way you slice it. I doesn't matter if you think it's minor. Cut that shite out.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:38 am to etm512
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However that theory kind of took a turn for the worse when he started beating the shite out of Richard IMO. Thoughts?
Maybe it was the first time that MIB tried to use a human to kill Jacob and it caught him by surprise. Basically, MIB taking the game to the next level.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 10:38 am to Decatur
Well then I guess putting "Richard Centric" in teh title of this thread was also a spoiler.
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